Friday, February 2, 2024

Soaring Illegal Immigration of Indians into the United States

Illegal immigration from India to the United States is soaring. A record 96,917 Indians were detained while attempting to enter the US illegally from October 2022 to September 2023, representing a 50% jump from the corresponding period in the prior year. Vast majority of the arrested Indians came from Prime Minister Modi's state of Gujarat while others came from the state of Punjab. There are about 725,000 undocumented Indian immigrants in the US – the third-largest population of illegal immigrants after Mexicans and El Salvadorans – according to a Pew Research Centre report. 

Illegal Immigration to the US From India. Source: Strait Times

The number of Indians attempting to cross into the United States illegally has accelerated in recent years on Prime Minister Modi's watch. These immigrants take the Latin American route to reach the US-Mexico border before making a run for the US. They cross the Darien Gap, a dangerous thick forest region between Colombia and Panama, taking three days to a week while taking huge risks ranging from lack of food and drinking water, wild animals and violent gangs. 

There are multiple drivers of mass illegal migration of Indians to other countries. These include increasing violence under Mr. Modi's Hindutva rule and lack of jobs for thee growing working-age population. Human traffickers are exploiting these conditions to profit from vulnerable groups most impacted by political and economic problems in the country. 

Christians, low caste Hindus, Muslims and Sikhs are among the main targets of the far-right Hindu mob attacks across India. In 2023, the Modi government’s discriminatory and divisive policies led to  growing violence against minorities, creating a pervasive environment of fear and a chilling effect on government critics, Human Rights Watch said in its World Report 2024

India's labor force participation rate (LPR) has been declining for several years. Centre For Monitoring Indian Economy (CMIE) data shows that the labor participation rate fell to 39.5% in 2022-23, from an already low 40.1% in 2021-22. This indicates that more than half of India’s working age population is not employed. This is especially the case for women 90% of whom are out of the labor force. India’s LPR is among the lowest in the world. The global average LPR is 60%.

Labor Participation Rate in India. Source: CMIE Via Reuters

The rapid GDP growth claimed by India is not creating enough jobs for its massive young population. The much-hyped "Make in India" initiative of the Modi government is just not working well enough to keep pace with the demand for jobs. Manufacturing’s contribution to India’s GDP has declined from 17% two decades ago to just 13% in 2022, according to the World Bank. India has added only 5 million factory jobs since Mr. Modi was first elected, for a total of 65 million such jobs now, according to the Wall Street Journal. Unable to find jobs in cities, a very large number of Indians are going back to subsistence farming to eke out a meager living.  

Indian economist Ritesh Kumar recently wrote a piece for Nikkei Asia titled "Few are benefiting from India's rapid GDP growth".  His conclusion: What India really needs is a growth trajectory that is inclusive, sustainable and can foster shared prosperity across all segments of the economy rather than benefiting only a privileged few.


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15 comments:

Vineeth said...

"The rapid GDP growth claimed by India is not creating enough jobs for its massive young population. The much-hyped 'Make in India' initiative of the Modi government is just not working well enough to keep pace with the demand for jobs."

Sir, I repeat this again. You are a Pakistani-American, not an Indian-American. It seems jarring to me that you are spending all your ink nitpicking India's troubles and challenges while maintaining a deafening silence about what is going on currently in Pakistan. All that you managed to write recently about your native country and the state of its economy was that there has been an increase in rice exports! Where is the story of Pakistan's industrial exports? Is Pakistan aiming to become an agricultural superpower by exporting rice and onions? What explains this dichotomy in your articles? How is it that Indian illegal immigration is seen as bad while Pakistani illegal immigration is "normal"? (Remember the boat tragedy in the Mediterranean?)

To be sure, India is not generating enough jobs for its huge working age population with its otherwise healthy 6pc GDP growth. The operative word here is "(not) enough". Many analysts have estimated India would need a sustained 9pc GDP growth or more backed by greater expansion of manufacturing to guarantee jobs to everyone. Nevertheless, with the current growth trends S&P forecasts India to become world's third largest economy by nominal GDP behind China and US in another 6 years. (By PPP terms, India has already been the 3rd largest economy for some time.) Not a big deal when you consider the behemoth that China is, but not bad either when you consider the state of regional economies.

Take the case of the automotive sector, for instance (whose trends I have been closely watching in recent times). Sales have been booming last couple of years (indicating people have disposable income and banks are giving loans) and companies are likewise expanding production capacity here with new plants being set up to meet the surge in demand. Aside from Japanese, Korean and European companies who have manufacturing base here, home-grown Indian auto brands like Tata, Mahindra, Royal Enfield, Bajaj, TVS and Hero have all been experiencing robust growth in domestic sales and exports. Currently being the 4th largest automobile producer in the world, India is expected to overtake Japan to become the 3rd largest behind China and US in just a few years.

India has managed to keep its inflation within a moderate 4-5 pc in the midst of all the geo-political headwinds which Pakistan blames its economic troubles on. The market sentiments here are very positive. There are no signs whatsoever of an economic crisis. It's just that all of this growth isn't enough. India needs more.

In comparison, how is Pakistan doing now? IMF downgraded Pakistan's GDP forecast for 2024 to 2 pc. Bank loans to individual customers and industries have dried up and industries are scaling back production or downing shutters. Every economist and analyst I read in DAWN only seem to predict continuing troubles for Pakistani economy even after the (already controversial) election. The troubles that columnists like Khurram Husain had long foretold (and explained in detail with numbers and statistics) have all come to pass. There just isn't any fiscal space for any political party to deliver on its promises of freebies, higher growth and lower energy prices. The new civilian setup in Pakistan would have to negotiate a new bailout with IMF after the expiry of the current standby arrangement, and that is only going to throttle growth again for the immediate future. By all accounts, the light at the end of the tunnel for Pakistani economy seem far off. That is, unless the country is fortunate to get a helping hand once again for its "services" as it happened under Generals Zia and Musharraf.

I am not gloating over Pakistan's economic misfortunes here, but stating the obvious ground realities that you choose not to write about in these pages.

Riaz Haq said...

Vineeth: "I am not gloating over Pakistan's economic misfortunes here, but stating the obvious ground realities that you choose not to write about in these pages"


I know it pains you to hear anything you perceive as negative about India. You'd rather hear the "India Rising" story pushed by the Western and Indian media. But it's a fact that India is in crisis which is covered up by the Godi media. Talking about "Pakistan's economic misfortunes" will not change this reality.

India ia among the world's most unequal countries. There's widespread unemployment, poverty and hunger in India. The situation for ordinary Indians is much worse than it is for ordinary people in Pakistan as highlighted by multiple indices like World Hunger Index and World Happiness Index etc. It's the result of Modi's misguided policies.

https://www.riazhaq.com/2021/12/india-in-crisis-unemployment-and-hunger.html


Over 75% of the world's poor deprived of basic living standards (nutrition, cooking fuel, sanitation and housing) live in India compared to 4.6% in Bangladesh and 4.1% in Pakistan, according to an OPHI/UNDP report on multidimensional poverty.

https://www.riazhaq.com/2023/02/abp-india-summit-2023-javed-akhtar-saw.html

As to why I wrote this blog post, please understand that illegal immigration is a hot topic in the US. It is emerging as a major election issue this year.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/immigration-emerges-key-2024-wedge-issue-trump-vulnerability/story?id=106635907

Vineeth said...

And I am aware that it perhaps pains and distresses you to be reminded over and over by me about what many analysts call the "perfect storm" that Pakistani state and society is facing for the last couple of years - an acute economic distress, chronic political instability and a largely self-created security crisis. But I had to remind you again about it because of your "deafening silence" about the subject in these pages, and how you seemingly try to cover it up with an obsession of its eastern neighbour.

I have no problems if you choose to write articles about India highlighting its societal and economic issues. After all, both Indians and Pakistanis are blood brothers even if estranged for over 75 years. That's why I am quite interested in the events in Pakistan and read DAWN on a daily basis. (Call me a daydreamer if you will, but I hope to see India and Pakistan normalize their relations in my lifetime.)

But what I do not understand is why you don't seem to write at all about current political and economic situation in Pakistan. Is it because the events pain or distress you? As we speak, Imran Khan has been sentenced seemingly in yet another sham case cooked up by Pakistan's establishment who evidently is leaving no stones unturned in keeping the popular leader in prison for the forseeable future. Pakistan's economy is still in doldrums and the incoming civilian setup after the elections will have the unenviable task of negotiating another IMF bailout that will predictably involve taking more unpopular decisions and perhaps inflicting greater pain in the medium term. And then there is the security situation in the frontier provinces of Balochistan and KP.

But you do not write a word about all this. Instead nearly all of your articles deal with India and its negatives. Why? Why does events in India seemingly interest you more than that of your native country?

Economic development that comes through liberalization policies are generally unequal, especially in developing societies. Some benefit more from it than others do. And no doubt, India is experiencing a very unequal growth. But you are very much mistaken in assuming there is an "economic crisis". There isn't. Atleast, nothing remotely comparable to what Pakistan is facing now. For me, an "economic crisis" is when you have very high inflation and low growth (stagflation), when the govt's coffers are nearly empty and it struggles to find money for its basic expenses (fiscal deficit), when factories are shutting down leaving the masses jobless and pushing more and more people into poverty. Pakistan is currently facing all this. India isn't.

India is experiencing high GDP growth by regional standards and for an economy of its size. Indian govt is sitting comfortable on ample tax revenues and forex reserves. It is heavily investing in infrastructure upgrades like new highways, bridges and rail lines. Inflation levels are very moderate. Industrial production is accelerating. People are spending money on consumer products more than ever before. Market sentiments are positive.

So where is the "crisis" that you see in the Indian economy? High levels of poverty and unemployment does imply an economic crisis per se. In the Indian context, it just means economic policies and development priorities needs to be rebalanced and made more equitable so that a larger share of the population would benefit. That's all.

Majumdar said...

Brofessor sb,

We know that record numbers of Indians are leaving Slumdog ModiFied India because of lack of opportunities and persecution. But why are record number of Pakis leaving Shining Pakiland?

https://www.siasat.com/pakistans-brain-drain-witnesses-sharp-increase-2612035/

Regards

Riaz Haq said...

Majumdar: "But why are record number of Pakis leaving Shining Pakiland?"


People who believe the Indian and Western narrative of "India Rising, Pakistan Collapsing" should not be surprised by it.

What is indeed "shocking" is that people from "Rising India" are fleeing their country in droves.

Vineeth said...

There is nothing so "shocking" about it, sir. Beyond Modi's bhakts, it is well known that India isn't producing "enough" jobs for its huge working age population. It isn't a recent phenomenon, and to be fair I wouldn't blame Modi govt for failing at it because no Indian govts succeeded at it. Its no easy task to create jobs in a country as populous as India. China could manage it since their political system allowed the creation of large of number of industries at break-neck pace and that resulted in sustained double-digit GDP growth for more than a decade. India cannot grow that fast due to its political system. To start a new industrial plant, power plant, roads or railway lines, govt has too many hurdles to face from land acquisition woes, court cases, protests by locals and environmental groups etc. For example, in my own state, a project to widen its main arterial highway faced a delay of decades due to issues related to land acquisition. Modi govt had to walk back from their agricultural reform agenda due to agitation by a section of farmers.

But by regional standards and for an economy of its size, India is doing relatively well without slipping into any major crisis or economic stagnation like Pakistan did. And it isn't just the Indian media or Western media that says it, but also Pakistani columnists I read in DAWN (who would be familiar with their country's current economic woes). The difference is as clear as day.

Also, I have to repeat this again and again. Hasn't it occured to you that you are evidently driven by a pathological dislike or hatred towards India in the same way that Modi bhakts here have towards Pakistan? It would make a lot sense when Indian columnists call out Modi govt's bluffs about his "achievements" regarding the economy, and they do that across many left-liberal and regional media outlets outside the influence of his chums. But why does India's poverty or unemplyment even bother you, a Pakistani-American? (Is it because you are envious that Western capitals seemingly court India these days, and not Pakistan?) You claimed that you posted this article because illegal immigration is a big issue in US elections. Fair enough. But in this article you have also clearly written that Indians constitute the third largest number of illegals behind Mexicans and Salvadoreans. So, why only single out Indians here? Why does India matter so much to you? Why are you so obsessed about it? The description of your blog says that you write about "South Asia". But the sheer deluge of articles you keep writing about India (and almost always in a negative light) would make one wonder if South Asia is India alone, or that India and its troubles dominates the region! Is it that India's influence in the region is such that if it sneezes, the whole of South Asia catches cold? Forget Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, Nepal, Bhutan or Maldives. Isn't there anything happening these days in Pakistan? Why is there seemingly such a dearth of topics for you to write about Pakistan? Your deafening silence about your own country that is going through all kinds of acute political, economic and security troubles is beginning to look comically absurd.

Of course, you wouldn't be publishing this comment and neither am I expecting you to. That's why I minced no words in writing this out. But if I have forced you to read through this, I would consider my troubles in typing this out as well worth it. And I will assume that you have read it.

Have a good day, sir!

Riaz Haq said...

Vineeth: "it is well known that India isn't producing "enough" jobs for its huge working age population. It isn't a recent phenomenon, and to be fair I wouldn't blame Modi govt for failing at it because no Indian govts succeeded at it"

I disagree. It is on Modi's watch that India achieved the dubious distinction of being among countries with the lowest labor force participation rates in the world. Look at the graph in my post to see this.

A key reason for precipitous decline in India's labor force participation rate is the poor handling of demonetization, GST rollout and covid pandemic that killed small business sector which employs the largest share of Indian workers.

This is what Princeton economist Professor Ashoka Mody, the author of “India is Broken”,refers to as India’s “lived reality”. Here's an excerpt from Mody's book:

"The grim reality is that, to employ all working-age Indians, the economy needs to create 200 million jobs over the next decade, an impossible order after the past decade of declining employment numbers.1 Right from independence, the Indian economy produced too few jobs. For more than 80 percent of Indians, the informal sector employment became the safety net, where workers idled for long stretches, earning below- or barely-above-poverty wages. Demonetization in 2016, a poorly executed goods and services tax in 2017, and COVID-19 in 2020 and 2021 struck hammer blows on the informal sector while creating no new options. Indeed, technology accelerated job destruction, especially in retail and wholesale trade. More Indians just stopped looking for work. Set against this bleakness, many pundits and leaders look back to celebrate and draw hope from India’s high GDP growth rates of the 1990s and 2000s. That celebrated growth, however, was an outcome of unusually buoyant world trade, rampant natural resource use, and a domestic finance-construction bubble. Even as wealthy Indians accumulated astonishing riches, job creation remained weak. The most severe forms of poverty came down, but still afflicted over 20 percent of Indians; another 40 percent lived precariously, ever at risk of falling back into a dire existence. The median Indian lived in that vulnerable zone—and, looking through a government-induced data fog, still lives there. The unchanging problem through the post-independence years has been the lack of public goods for shared progress: education, health delivery, functioning cities, clean air and water, and a responsive and fair judiciary. Along with scarcity of jobs, the absence or poor quality of public goods makes the lived reality of vast numbers."

Vineeth said...

I am pleasantly surprised that my reply got published (despite the high level of personal criticism directed at you) as I was expecting it to get buried like my earlier comment. I truly appreciate that it wasn't the case with this one.

Demonetization and a poorly planned implementation of a half-cooked national tax (GST) were indeed foolish acts by Modi and his govt that turned out to be hammer blows to the Indian economy, and its GDP growth rate plunged to 4% (or even lower) in 2019 before COVID wave struck. It was a sharp fall that even Modi's defenders found it hard to explain back then without blaming his shoddy economic management. And this is an example that I often point out in arguments with Modi bhakts who makes unfounded claims that Modi govt's handling of economy is somehow superior than that during the Manmohan Singh.

But it would seem Modi did learn its lessons from these mishaps and has been careful not to indulge in "shock-and-awe" tactics atleast in the economic sphere afterwards. Economies of many countries suffered greatly as a result of COVID wave and the subsequent destabilizing events (like the Ukraine war). There were many businesses in India that shuttered for good and many lost their jobs during the height of COVID. But for whatever reason, Indian economy does seem to have rebounded. And that may not have anything to do with Modi, but the inherent resilience of the Indian economy and the strong fundamentals that had been built up since 1991 when India faced an acute balance of payments crisis like Pakistan has been enduring frequently. If anything, I see it as an auspicious sign that Modi isn't personally meddling too much with the economy now as he did during demonetisation. And I also appreciate that notwithstanding the divisive politics and religious polarisation, his govt has also shown commitment towards greater privatization and infrastructural upgrades (new highways, ports, power plants, rail lines and freight corridors) that would serve Indian economy well in the coming years and decades as it did in case of China.

Just a few days back I had been reading in Autocar India about the sales of passenger vehicles and two-wheelers that have hit an all-time high (in sharp contrast to Pakistan's auto sector, for example). India's vehicle sales surpassed Japan for the first time making it the third largest automobile market behind China and the US. Sure, it isn't anything worth bragging about that a country of 1.4 billion finally managed to surpass a country of 125 million in vehicle sales since the Chinese market with an equal population is 5-6 times larger, and Japan still has a lead over India in automobile production and exports for now. But steadily rising production in India indicates that it would surpass Japan in a few years on that count as well.

Now one might quote other numbers to say automotive sector growth cannot be a reliable indicator of the overall state of the economy or that India still has one of the lowest numbers of vehicle ownership in per-family or per-capita terms. It may well be like looking at a glass of water as either half-empty or half-full. But what I see as significant here is that rising sales can only mean more people in India are able to afford personal vehicles than they were before, that banks have the money to give out auto loans, that India's automobile industry with its heavily localized manufacturing is seeing a sustained growth in domestic sales and exports, and finally that domestic Indian brands are part of (and in some cases like EVs, leaders in) this growth story. These are positive signs for the economy and Indian industry in general.

SAMIR SARDANA said...

The rapid GDP growth claimed by India is not creating enough jobs for its massive young population. Manufacturing’s contribution to India’s GDP has declined from 17% two decades ago to just 13% in 2022, according to the World Bank. India has added only 5 million factory jobs since Mr. Modi was first elected, for a total of 65 million such jobs....

THE WORLD IS MISSING THE POINT 1

ONLY 5 MILLION JOBS IN 10 YEARS, AND GDP HAS JUMPED IN 10 YEARS !

SO WHAT DOES THAT MEAN ?

COMPANIES ARE MAKING "MORE" PROFITS" (ROOT CAUSE) ! SURPLUS LABOUR LOWERS WAGES ! THAT IS THE AIM !

Y NO BASTILLE !

THE CORPORATES ARE PANWARI BANIA SCUM FROM RAJASTHAN AND GUJARAT ! ALL BANIA CHAWALA LOVERS

AND THE DISTRACTION = ZEE AND ABP BANIA SCUM ! TO DIVERT MASSES ! WHO FUNDS THESE BANIA SCUM TV CHANNELS ? IT IS THE BANIA CORPORATES !

SO BANIA CHAIWALA LETS HIS BANIA SCUM,MAKE PROFITS TO FUND THE BANIA MEDIA,TO DIVERT ATTENTION AND WIN POLLS !

THAT IS THE BIG PICTURE !

ARE INDIANS DUDS ?

THESE MONKEYS ARE USING VVPAT - IN A NATION FULL OF DECEIT AND TREACHERY !

IS THERE ANY JUDGE IN INDIA WHO KNOWS HOW EVM WORKS !

EVM = EASY VOTE MANIPULATION ! EVM IS THE BIGGEST DISASTER OF THE CONGRESS ! dindooohindoo

SAMIR SARDANA said...

Demonetization and a poorly planned implementation of a half-cooked national tax (GST) were indeed foolish acts by Modi and his govt that turned out to be hammer blows to the Indian economy, and its GDP growth rate plunged to 4% (or even lower) in 2019 before COVID wave struck.

NEIN !

GST + DEMO = THE GENIUS OF AMBANIS AND ADANI !

WHY IS INDIAN INDUSTRY MAKING RECORD PROFITS ?

WHY IS GST AND CORPORATE TAX AT ALL TIME HIGH ?

COZ CHAIWALA HAS DESTROYED SME ! ALL THAT BUSINESS IS SERVED BY COMPANIES WITH SALES OF 300-500 CRORES,WHO SOURCE THEIR RAW MATERIALS FROM ADANI OR AMBANI ARE SERVED BY ADANI (POWER/ GAS/ PORTS /TRANSMISSON)

PRE DEMO SME PAID NO GST AND NO PROFIT TAX AND SOLD IN CASH ! NOW THEY ARE GONE AND ALL IS IN THE BOOKS ! THAT IS NPA IS DOWN AS THE NPA UNITS HAVE BOOSTED THEIR SALES (FROM SME DESTRUCTION)

THE LABOUR SACKED BY SME IS LOWERING WAGE RATES AND BEING FORCED TO SELL FARM LAND TO CORPORATES !

BUT ECONOMIT AND FORBES WILL NOT WRITE ON THIS !

FRON THIS MASSIVE SURGE IN GST COMES SPENDS ON INFRA - WHICH GOES FROM CHAIWALA TO BANIA CORPORATE BALANCE SHEETS !

THESE CORPORATE BANIAS THEN PUMP ADVERTS IN PANWAR BANIA ZEE/AAJTAK/ABP/REPUBLIC TV, TO KEEP ZEE AND ABP AFLOAT,AND DIVERT THE MINDS OF THE HAPLESS INDIAN DUDS !

THAT IS THE CHAIWALA MODEL - WHICH NO MEDIA HOUSE HAS UNDERSTOOD !

THIS IS THE WORTH OF INDIAN DEMOCRACY ! dindooohindoo

SAMIR SARDANA said...

"The grim reality is that, to employ all working-age Indians, the economy needs to create 200 million jobs over the next decade, an impossible order after the past decade of declining employment numbers. Right from independence, the Indian economy produced too few jobs.

THE KEY LINE

Right from independence, the Indian economy produced too few jobs.

THAT IS THE CRUX !

INDIA IS AN ACCURSED NATION,SHORT ON OIL,SEVERAL MATERIALS,WATER,ARABLE LAND,QUALITY LIVESTOCK AND RAMPANT POLLUTION AND CORRUPTION !

AI + NANO + ROBOTICS + GN SEEDS AND HIG TECH AGRI MEANS THAT A BILLION PEOPLE IN INDIA WILL BE "DEAD WEIGHT" NOT DRIFT WOOD ! TODAY DALITS AND MUSLIMS ARE DRIFT WOOD ! TOMORROW,THEY WILL BE "DEAD WEIGHT" !

THAT MEANS TERROR,EXTREMISM,NAXALS,STRIFE AND SECTARIANISM AND THE RISE OF DEMAGOGUES ! TIME THAT WITH THE OVERDUE DEATH OF CHAIWALA !

GO BACK IN TIME - POST ASHOKA,MAURYAS,RANJIT SINGH,SHIVAJI..... AFTER THEIR DEATH - THEIR EMPIRE WAS DSTROYED !

SAME FOR CHAIWALA ! HE HAS OVERPLAYED HIS HAND AND AFTER HE IS DEAD OR KILLED - CHAOS WILL REIGN SUPREME ! HE IS A BLUFFMASTER,WHOSE BLUFF HAS NOT BEEN CALLED !

PAKISTAN AND CHINA HAVE TO WAIT FOR THAT DAY - WHICH WILL COME SOON AND THEN,BREAK UP INDIA INTO 10 NATIONS - AFTER TAKIMG OVER KASHMIR AND NORTH EAST !

THOSE 1 BILLION DEAD WEIGHT,IN 1 NATION,ARE A THREAT,TO PAKISTAN AND CHINA ! BUT WITH 10 NATIONS - THEY WILL KILL OFF EACH OTHER !

AND THAT IS PROSPERITY,FOR SOUTH ASIA AND CHINA !

AT THE EOD,WHAT MATTERS IS HUMAN SALVATION ! THE SALVATION OF DALITS, IS IN ISLAM OR BUDDHISM,IN AN ISLAMIC OR BUDDHIST NATION !

Riaz Haq said...

"I didn’t like India – the country," she (Dejana Radanovic) wrote on another Instagram Story. "I didn’t like the food, traffic, hygiene (worms in the food, yellow pillows and dirty bed linen in the hotel, not knowing how to use roundabout etc.)

https://www.foxnews.com/sports/tennis-star-called-racist-comments-about-india-following-three-week-stay

Professional tennis player Dejana Radanovic was accused of being racist after making comments about India following three ITF tournaments in the country.

Radanovic, the world No. 245 in women’s tennis, slammed the "food, traffic and hygiene" of the country on social media.

"I didn’t like India – the country," she wrote on another Instagram Story. "I didn’t like the food, traffic, hygiene (worms in the food, yellow pillows and dirty bed linen in the hotel, not knowing how to use roundabout etc.)


Another post in Munich, Germany read, "Hello civilization. Only those who have experienced something like India for 3 weeks can understand the feeling."

Radanovic, who is from Serbia, addressed the comments that she was racist by saying she was simply commenting about the country itself, not its people.

"I didn’t like India – the country," she wrote on another Instagram Story. "I didn’t like the food, traffic, hygiene (worms in the food, yellow pillows and dirty bed linen in the hotel, not knowing how to use roundabout etc.)



"If you come to my country, Serbia, and you don’t like all those same things, that means you are a racist??? What the hell that has to do with racism?! I have friends all nationalities and colors so don’t go there cause it’s an absolute NONSENSE!"

Radanovic continued with her Stories, saying she enjoyed the people of India.


"95% of the people who go to India from anywhere else in the world cannot adopt [sic] to that kind of life! Of course it’s different when you are born there and used to it! How does not liking mentioned things mean I didn’t like the people? Quite opposite, I liked the people there a lot."

Vineeth said...

Congrats on digging out yet another India-bashing news from somewhere. I had read this piece of news a few days back in one of our newspapers here. Having lived all my life in India, I am well aware public hygiene and civic sense of the people in this country is pathetic (even in my own state which boasts 100% literacy and high HDI and is often rated one of the cleanest states in the country), so I would not argue about it. In fact, I have often wondered why western tourists even bother to visit the country at all. Sure, India has 42 UNESCO World Heritage sites to see with plenty of centuries-old temples with beautiful intricately carved sculptures, jungles with tiger safaris and all that, but is visiting them worth enduring all the filth, chaos and rude people who lack even basic civic sense in its cities, towns and villages? India has an enviable and diverse cultural and natural heritage worth bragging about, but the Indian experience is badly let down by its present-day inhabitants. That said, I do hope Pakistan is doing better than India in matters of public hygiene, civic sense and friendliness of its people, and manages to attract more foreign tourists per-capita than its filthy eastern neighbour.

By the way, just in case you happened to miss it, Pakistan just had a general election. Not that it matters much in real terms, since we know the party who ultimately "wins" these elections is never any of those who were listed in the ballots, but one that wasn't listed, but I do hope to see a writeup on that next since I am curious to know about your viewpoint on the current state of politics in your country, since everything else about a country's future ultimately hinges on that. If I'm not mistaken, the last time you wrote about the raging political crisis in your native country was in August.

Majumdar said...

Brofessor sb,

You should invite Dejana to a WTA invite in Pakiland. Hopefully she will like it better!

Regards

SAMIR SARDANA said...

"I didn’t like India – the country," she (Dejana Radanovic) wrote on another Instagram Story.

THE PRIORI NATURE OF TRUTH ! IT ALWAYS COMES OUT !

BABAR SAID THIS 1000 YEARS AGO !

“Hindustan is a country of a few charms.Its people have no good looks, no good manners, no genius or capacity. There are no good horses, no good dogs, no grapes, muskmelons or good fruits, no ice or cold water, no bread or cooked food in the markets.. Their residences have no charm, air, regularity or symmetry.

I would request the reader to note the similarity between Babar and Nixon !

Gospel of Nixon - Chapter 1 Verse 2

In November 1971, in the middle of a discussion about India-Pakistan tensions with Kissinger and Secretary of State William Rogers, after Rogers mentioned reprimanding Gandhi, the president blurted, “I don’t know how they reproduce!”

BABAR , NIXON AND DEJANA !

I SEE A PATTERN !

THE GOSPEL OF TRUTH !

BUT DEJANA SAYS - SHE LIKES INDIANS !

NOW Y IS THAT ? WHEN WHITES TRAVEL TO ASIA - THEY FACE A LANGUAGE ISSUE IN ENGLISH !

IN INDIA - THEY MEET MONKEYS - WHO SPEAK,READ AND WRITE ENGLISH,AND THAT MARVELS THE WHITEMAN ! IT IS A GREAT JOY FOR THE WHITE MAN,TO SEE THAT THEIR SLAVE APES - HAVE COME SO FAR,AND NO MORE,SWING FROM TREES !