Wednesday, June 1, 2016

Why Don't Indian Muslims Migrate to Pakistan?

"One of the more intriguing nuggets about the Africa emigration story is that far from fleeing poverty, migrants out of the continent are likely to be relatively well off, and are rarely from the most destitute families"    Mail and Guardian Africa

The above quote comes to mind when answering an oft-repeated question: "Why don't Indian Muslims migrate to Pakistan?" This question of why don't all of the Muslims migrate out of India to Pakistan and other Muslim nations is most often asked by the Hindu Nationalists who seek to make their country 100% "Hindu Rashtra".

Indian Muslims Most Deprived:

Muslims in India are the most deprived among various groups. In fact, they are worse off than even the lowest caste Hindus called Dalits or untouchables, according to data available from multiple sources, including Indian government report. They suffer from widespread discrimination at the hands of the Hindu majority in education, employment, housing and in the criminal justice system. They have significantly lower levels of development than their Hindu counterparts.  So why don't they all migrate out of India?

Why Don't Indian Muslims Leave India?

This question of why don't all of the Muslims migrate out of India to Pakistan and other Muslim nations is most often asked by the Hindu Nationalists who seek to make their country 100% "Hindu Rashtra".

The question, however,  does deserve an answer. And the answer is: Poorest and least developed people tend to stay put where they are; they do not migrate. It's only people who have a certain level of income and skills who are more likely to migrate to other countries for better opportunities. This fact has been well-established by multiple studies conducted in Africa.

Here's an except of African Development Bank report on migration:

"Results show that despite increase in the absolute number of migrants, Africa, particularly SubSaharan Africa has one of the lowest rate of emigration in the world .... Poorer countries generally have lower rate of emigration ......Bad socio-economic conditions generally seem to lead to higher rate of emigration by highly skilled individuals. Generally, migration is driven by motives to improve livelihoods with notable evidence on changes in labor market status. Often, self-employed or unemployed émigré ended up in wage employment. The paper outlines policy issues emerging from the migration trend in Africa."

Migration vs Human Development Source: Hein de Haas








The Poorest Least Likely to Emigrate:

Data shows that increased human and economic development is initially associated with increasing emigration. Any form of development in the poorest countries of the world is therefore likely to lead to accelerating emigration. Such findings contradict conventional thinking and force us to radically change our views on migration. Such rethinking can be achieved by learning to see migration as an intrinsic part of broader development processes rather than as a problem to be solved, or the temporary response to development “disequilibria”, according to The Conversation, a US publication.

Summary:

There is a strong inverse correlation between poverty and emigration. The poorest citizens of a developing country are least likely to emigrate. People with higher education and better skills are most likely to leave developing nations for better opportunities abroad. This data explains why Indian Muslims, most of  whom are worse off than the untouchables, tend to leave India in proportionally much smaller numbers than their Hindu counterparts.

Related Links:

Haq's Musings

Muslims Are the New Untouchables in India

Pakistan: A Blessing for Muslims of Sindh and Punjab

Modi's Pakistan Policy

Hinduization of India

Indian Muslims Worse Off Than Dalits

Gujarat Muslims Ignored By Indian Politcians

Are Muslims Better Off in Jinnah's Pakistan?

India's Guantanamos and Abu Ghraibs 

35 comments:

19640909rk said...

"Muslims in India are the most deprived among various groups".

Muslims in India are most poorest. I agree. But they are not deprived. Muslims ruled India for 1,000 years. After the end of Muslim rule,they have become poor due to indiscipline.

Muslims tend to have very large families. In India it is difficult to have a decent lifestyle with more than 2 kids. Muslims who take crae of themselves with better family planning are doing well. Average Muslim family has at least 5 kids. In India nobody discriminates in Jobs in Private sector. If you are well qualified, you get the job.In government sector many states are giving Muslims reservation. Example - UP, Maharastra , AP, T.Nadu etc. But in my opinion it is not correct.

Take examples of Azim Premji and other industry stalwarts. Premji was at one point in the top 20 richest in the world. Worth 17 Billion $. A shia muslim- he who would have failed in Pakistan.

http://www.dnaindia.com/india/comment-the-muslim-businessmen-of-india-1383602

Anonymous said...


We are talking about post 1947, right because you are harping about Sachar report which came out in 2005.

Magar Ustaad, even the well off muslims from India do not wish to migrate to Pakistan. Lot of them are in the Bay Area, USA (not much less than pakistani muslims). Many of them (less educated ones) are in gulf states too.

There is a reason why Indian muslims do not immigrate to Pakistan and that it that they know that it is worse than India.

Your post does not prove anything except the fact that you are well aware of Indian Muslim's rejection of Pakistan.

BTW isn't it cute that you accept Sachar report but not Hamodoor Rehman commission's report on the atrocity (read genocide) committed in 1971. Your word of the day is
CONVENIENCE.

Riaz Haq said...

19640909rk: "Average Muslim family has at least 5 kids."


You discredit yourself and your entire argument by making such false and bigoted claims and negative stereotyping of Indian Muslims.

Indian Muslim women's total fertility rate is about 3 (3 children per woman) and it is rapidly falling, in fact it;s falling faster than for Hindu women.

http://indianexpress.com/article/explained/population-growth-slowing-for-all-on-sex-ratio-muslims-better-than-hindus/

Riaz Haq said...

Anon: "There is a reason why Indian muslims do not immigrate to Pakistan and that it that they know that it is worse than India."


Once an person, including an Indian Muslim, reaches a certain level of development and income to migrate, he or she evaluates all options. And the usual rational conclusion is to migrate from a developing country to a developed country rather than from one developing country to another.

But numbers of such Muslims is very low compared with their Hindu counterparts.


Anon: " Lot of them are in the Bay Area, USA (not much less than pakistani muslims)"


False. There are 35,000 Pakistani-born Muslims in San Francisco Bay Area, far higher than the 25,000 Indian-born Muslims, even though the population of Muslims in India is higher than that in Pakistan. Besides, this is such a sample of South Asian Muslims that it can not be representative of the hundreds of millions of Muslims living in South Asia.


Anon: " BTW isn't it cute that you accept Sachar report but not Hamodoor Rehman commission's report on the atrocity (read genocide) committed in 1971."


Have you read either of the two reports? Obviously not. If you had you wouldn't be making such a ridiculous statement.

Hamoodur Rahman Commission report challenged the claims by Bangladesh authorities that 3 million Bengalis had been killed by Pakistan army and 200,000 women were raped. The commission, put the casualty figure as low as 26,000 civilian casualties.

Its primary conclusion was very critical of the role of Pakistan's military interference and misconduct of politicians as well as intelligence failure of the Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) and the Federal Investigation Agency (FIA) permitted the infiltration of Indian agents all along the borders of East Pakistan

http://www.riazhaq.com/2015/12/debunking-bangladeshi-nationalists-1971.html

Singh said...

then why Afgan is sitting in PAK? and Syrian in EU

Riaz Haq said...

Singh: "then why Afgan is sitting in PAK? and Syrian in EU"


There's a big distinction between migrants and refugees.


Afghan refugees in Pakistan are mostly poor. They have been driven out by war. The better off among them have moved on to Europe and America.

But Syrian refugees in Europe are generally better educated and middle class. The less fortunate are languishing in Syria's neighboring nations.

Riaz Haq said...

False #terror charges against #Indian #Muslims cause for concern: #India's Gowda #Islamophobia http://toi.in/NZtgyZ20 via @timesofindia

Touching on an issue that has for long agonized Muslims in India, Union minister for law and justice DV Sadananda Gowda on Tuesday said he is concerned about false terror charges slapped on Muslim youths that are followed by acquittals due to lack of evidence across the country. More importantly, he said legal reforms are in the pipeline to address such cases.
Gowda, here for the 'Vikas Parv' celebrations to mark two years of the Narendra Modi-led NDA government at the centre, said, "Cases of arrest of Muslim youths on false terror charges are a matter of concern. We are thinking of bringing in changes. The law commission is working on a report in this matter to bring about reforms in criminal procedure, bail, prosecution lapses, etc. A Supreme Court judge is the chairperson of a panel preparing the report, and there are other legal experts who are helping in preparing this report, and it is being worked upon."

Gowda's remarks on the thorny subject have come barely a week after home minister Rajnath Singh told TOI that "the government has settled for a calibrated approach to terror investigations, advising police to adopt a more sophisticated approach, including de-radicalisation strategies, rather than necessarily prosecuting all suspects".
Singh had then gone on to point out how the Delhi Police had recently released seven of the 10 suspects held for their alleged involvement in a Jaish-e-Mohammed terror plot. "You would have seen only three of the lot were arrested. We are working in a balanced manner. Earlier, all would be sent (to jail)," he had then said.
Slapped with untenable terror charges, many Muslim men have lost the prime years of their lives as they languished in jail. After their release they have found it difficult to adjust to a world that has changed in the interim, graduating from buses to metros, banks to ATMs, landlines to smartphones.
Recently, Nisaruddin Ahmad was acquitted in the Babri anniversary blast case after he spent 23 years in a Jaipur jail. There have been others too. Mohd Amir Khan was acquitted in 17 out of the 19 terrors charges he was fending off, but only after being incarcerated for 14 years. He had been charged with setting off 20 low-intensity bombs over 10 months during 1996-1997 in Delhi, Rohtak, Panipat and Ghaziabad. He told TOI on Tuesday: "The government has policies to rehabilitate surrendered terrorists, but nothing for those who are falsely charged."


In the past, six Muslim men accused of being trained operatives of Harkat-ul-Jihad-al-Islam (HUJI) were acquitted of the terror charges for lack of evidence by a special court in Lucknow. Five Muslim youths who were arrested in 2006 by the Mumbai police from different parts of the city on charges of terrorism were also acquitted this year. Gulzar Ahmad Bani, an alleged Hizbul Mujahideen operative who had been in jail from 2001 in a blast case in Agra, was set free for want of evidence by a local court.
The problem runs deep. A film based on legal activist Shahid Azmi, who himself faced false charges and after his release fought to defend those accused wrongly in cases of terrorism, poignantly points that out. Mufti Abdul Qayyum, who had spent 11 years in jail and was later acquitted by the Supreme Court in the Akshardham attack case, wrote a book, 'Gyarah Saal Salakhon Ke Peeche', narrating the stories of trumped up terror charges.

Ravi Krishna said...


"False #terror charges against #Indian #Muslims cause for concern: #India's Gowda #Islamophobia http://toi.in/NZtgyZ20 via @timesofindia"

Hmm interesting. CAIR and US politicians tell the same about innocent muslims being watched, entrapped and imprisoned.

Riaz Haq said...

RK: " CAIR and US politicians tell the same about innocent muslims being watched, entrapped and imprisoned. "

Yes, Islamophobia exists in both America and India.


The difference is that, unlike India, there are Muslim civil rights groups like CAIR and strong voices, including presidential candidates like Bernie and Hillary, opposing it in America.

Riaz Haq said...

Very few #Pakistani Hindus fall for #Indian propaganda. Most regret going to #India. Want to go back home. http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Its-a-sad-ghar-wapsi-for-Pakistani-Hindus/articleshow/50460817.cms

en as Pakistani-origin singer Adnan Sami was granted Indian citizenship, many disillusioned families are going back to the neighbouring country after spending many years in Gujarat.
In the past one year, at least 100 families — most of them Sindhis and Kutchi Gujaratis — have returned to Pakistan after spending many years in Gujarat waiting for the elusive Indian citizenship. Many more are packing their bags saying their 'Ghar Wapsi' to India had proved an illusion.
Motiram Khatri, 37, who fled Pakistan in 2009 to settle in Ahmedabad, has applied to go back to Sindh. Khatri, a grocer in Pakistan, had started a mobile shop in Dehgam on the city outskirts to sustain his family of five. However, a police case was filed against him allegedly for violating visa rules which prohibit him from stepping out of the city.
"I could not get any job or place on rent in Ahmedabad. What crime did I commit if I went just 15 km from the city for my family's survival?" asked Khatri, who said he will revive his grocery business in Sindh once he returns to Pakistan.


Rambhai Bhimani, president of the Ahmedabad-Thara Lohana Samaj, confirmed that in the past one year, nearly 100 Hindu families, who had fled Pakistan and come to Gujarat for security and a better life, had gone back.
"It is ironical, Hindu organizations have launched 'Ghar Wapsi' campaign to bring Hindus who had converted to Islam back into their fold but they do little to embrace those who are their own," said Bhimani.
Dr Ramesh Lohana, 38, left his successful practice in Karachi in December 2012 for a secure life in Ahmedabad. Now, a disillusioned man, he is waiting for his children's exams to be over so that he can go back to Pakistan.
"My practice earned me Rs 2.5 lakh a month. Here, no hospital was willing to give me a job. I was forced to take up a supervisory job in a garments shop for Rs 25,000. Authorities and ordinary people look at us with suspicion. We feel like second-class citizens," said Dr Lohana who is preparing to leave in April.

Ramesh said...

"Indian Muslim women's total fertility rate is about 3 (3 children per woman) and it is rapidly falling, in fact it;s falling faster than for Hindu women.
"

Isn't Pak's population growth at a higher rate than India. As per World Bank's figures, India's growth is 1.2% and Pak's 2.1 (based on 2014). So it seems Indian muslims are smarter than their Pakistani brothers and sisters.

Riaz Haq said...

Ramesh: "Isn't Pak's population growth at a higher rate than India. As per World Bank's figures, India's growth is 1.2% and Pak's 2.1 (based on 2014). So it seems Indian muslims are smarter than their Pakistani brothers and sisters."

Pakistan's higher population growth, including Pakistani Hindu population growth that is faster than Muslims, is a blessing in the long run.

Countries with growing population and younger demographics will out outperform those with declining populations and older demographics.

That's the reason economies Europe and Japan are very slow while those in Asia and Africa are growing much faster. The US is doing relatively better because American TFR is still above 2.


Countries, most recently China, are finding that it is far more difficult to raise low fertility than it is reduce high fertility. The countries in the European Union are offering a variety of incentives, including birth starter kits to assist new parents in Finland, cheap childcare centers and liberal parental leave in France and a year of paid maternity leave in Germany, according to Desert News. But the fertility rates in these countries remain below replacement levels.

http://www.riazhaq.com/2015/07/pakistans-growing-population-blessing.html

Majumdar said...

Prof sb,

You have stated two hypothesis. One that IMs are poorer and more deprived than even dalits and tribals in India. Second, that richer and less deprived that you are more yoy are likely to emigrate. By that logic, shouldnt there be more dalits and tribals in the Bay Area than IMs. Perhaps you can confirm?

Regards

Riaz Haq said...

Majumdar: "By that logic, shouldnt there be more dalits and tribals in the Bay Area than IMs. Perhaps you can confirm?"

I have not seen any stats on it.

But there is an Ambedkar Association here in North America. Perhaps they have better info.

http://www.aanausa.org/

Ambedkar Association of California was recently very active in California textbook controversy to defeat Hindu Groups' demanding removal of references to caste discrimination in India.

http://www.riazhaq.com/2016/04/hindutva-outfits-lose-california.html

Ramesh said...

"Pakistan's higher population growth, including Pakistani Hindu population growth that is faster than Muslims, is a blessing in the long run.
"

We can have our differences, but let us agree that a high population growth for Pakistan is nothing but a time bomb. Pak just does not have resources to support such a high growth. From lack of jobs to water, everything will be under pressure.
(same applies to India)

The biggest snake oil ever sold is that demographic dividend. It works, but only to a limit. India and Pakistan have population way above the optimum limit. There is a reason why India's growth is not trickling down to everyone.

Ramesh said...

http://www.aanausa.org/

As much as I detest caste based discrimination, I have to point out that dalits do not walk the talk. For decades they have been threatening to convert out of Hinduism (almost all to Bhuddism), to escape casteism, but their numbers prove nothing of that sort is happening. The reason is not hard to guess: They like the benefit of the affirmative action given to them in generous numbers.

Anonymous said...

Conversion to Buddhism does not deny you affirmative action benefits.So guess again...

Syed Qasim Abbas said...

Riaz sahab Budget came out ....please elighten us on that

Riaz Haq said...

SQA: "Riaz sahab Budget came out ....please elighten us on that"


I will share my thoughts on it via a video I plan on posting here tonight.

Meanwhile, here are the key data points:

Total Spending: $47 billion

Tax Revenue Target: $39 billion

DeficitL $8 billion

Distribution:

37% to debt payment


23% to development


19% to defense


3% to subsidies


18% all others


Defense budget increased by 11%. After the increase, Pakistan's defense spending is $8,077 per solider annually, while India allocates $17,554, Turkey $31,184, Saudi Arabia $269,060 and the USA spends $426,814 per soldier annually.

Riaz Haq said...

In another shooting tragedy on a #US campus, lessons for #India. #UCLAShooting http://scroll.in/article/809270/in-another-shooting-tragedy-on-a-us-campus-lessons-for-india … via @scroll_in

Indians are used to telling themselves that India and the US are “the world’s two largest democracies”, as the cliché goes. The two societies, however, resemble each other most closely in extremely unsavory ways. First, both societies are deeply marked by violence.

Scratch the surface of Indian life, Urvashi Butalia has argued, and the “façade of peacefulness very quickly disappears”.

The violence is also celebrated in popular culture, for example, in Bollywood and Hollywood, as a mechanism for legitimate justice in the wake of a failure of the law. Routinised to the point of being banal, such violence is masked by the rhetoric of Indian and American exceptionalism, in which violence is defined simply as an unfortunate aspect of an otherwise gloriously multifaceted society.

Ravi Krishna said...

"The two societies, however, resemble each other most closely in extremely unsavory ways. First, both societies are deeply marked by violence."

So the daily killing of minorities in Pakistan (today an Ahmedi was shot dead) counts as act of peace ?? (fixed raised eyebrows)

But then we are used to being told that islam is a religion of peace.

Riaz Haq said...

The Other Side of Silence
Voices From the Partition of India
By URVASHI BUTALIA

I looked at what the large political facts of this history seemed to be saying. If I was reading them right, it would seem that Partition was now over, done with, a thing of the past. Yet, all around us there was a different reality: partitions everywhere, communal tension, religious fundamentalism, continuing divisions on the basis of religion. In Delhi, Sikhs became targets of communal attacks in 1984; in Bhagalpur in Bihar, hundreds of Muslims were killed in one of India's worst communal riots in 1989; a few years later, the Babri Mosque was destroyed in Ayodhya by frenzied Hindu communalists (supported, openly and brazenly, by political parties such as the Bhartiya Janata Party, the Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh, the Vishwa Hindu Parishad and the Shiv Sena), and later, thousands of Muslims were again targeted in Surat, Ahmedabad and Bombay. In each of these instances, Partition stories and memories were used selectively by the aggressors: militant Hindus were mobilized using the one-sided argument that Muslims had killed Hindus at Partition, they had raped Hindu women, and so they must in turn be killed, and their women subjected to rape. And the patterns were there in individual life too: a Muslim and a Hindu in independent India could not easily choose to marry each other without worrying about whether one or the other of them would survive the wrath of their families or communities; if such a marriage broke up, or for some reason ended up in court, you could be sure that it would be accompanied by public announcements, for example on the part of the judiciary, about those who had accepted the two-nation theory and those who had not.


https://www.nytimes.com/books/first/b/butalia-silence.html

Riaz Haq said...

RK: "So the daily killing of minorities in Pakistan (today an Ahmedi was shot dead) counts as act of peace ?? (fixed raised eyebrows)"

So the violence in India and US is because of violence in Pakistan and Islam?

What a justification!!!

Kya Hoga said...

A DOSSIER MUST BE PREPARED ABOUT VIOLENCE IN INDIA AND SUBMITTED TO THE UNITED NATIONS!

Riaz Haq said...

KH: "A DOSSIER MUST BE PREPARED ABOUT VIOLENCE IN INDIA AND SUBMITTED TO THE UNITED NATIONS!"

UN needs no dossier, The UN and the World already know how violent India is toward untouchables, women and religious minorities.

Modi, the butcher of Gujarat and now Prime Minister of India, was persona non grata in the western world for over a decade.

Proud Pakistani said...

But is is Pakistan's minorities whose numbers are vanishing,one way or other. And one of the ways is they are taking asylum in other countries. I am sure asylum seekers would be much more than Pakistan.

Riaz Haq said...

PP: "But is is Pakistan's minorities whose numbers are vanishing"

This is false propaganda.

The fact is the Hindu population in Pakistan is growing faster than the Muslim population.

In fact, Pakistani Hindu population is among the fastest growing in the world, growing faster than the Hindu populations in India, Nepal, Bangladesh and Indonesia.


Hindu fertility rate (TFR) of 3.2 children per woman in Pakistan is much higher than national fertility rate of 2.86. With 3.33 million Hindus, Pakistan is currently home to the world's 5th largest Hindu population. By 2050, Pakistan will rank 4th with 5.6 million Hindus, surpassing Indonesia which is currently ranked 4th largest Hindu country, according to Pew Research.


http://www.riazhaq.com/search?q=hindu+population

Very few #Pakistani Hindus fall for #Indian propaganda. Most regret going to #India. Want to go back home. http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Its-a-sad-ghar-wapsi-for-Pakistani-Hindus/articleshow/50460817.cms

Even as Pakistani-origin singer Adnan Sami was granted Indian citizenship, many disillusioned families are going back to the neighbouring country after spending many years in Gujarat.
In the past one year, at least 100 families — most of them Sindhis and Kutchi Gujaratis — have returned to Pakistan after spending many years in Gujarat waiting for the elusive Indian citizenship. Many more are packing their bags saying their 'Ghar Wapsi' to India had proved an illusion.
Motiram Khatri, 37, who fled Pakistan in 2009 to settle in Ahmedabad, has applied to go back to Sindh. Khatri, a grocer in Pakistan, had started a mobile shop in Dehgam on the city outskirts to sustain his family of five. However, a police case was filed against him allegedly for violating visa rules which prohibit him from stepping out of the city.
"I could not get any job or place on rent in Ahmedabad. What crime did I commit if I went just 15 km from the city for my family's survival?" asked Khatri, who said he will revive his grocery business in Sindh once he returns to Pakistan.


Rambhai Bhimani, president of the Ahmedabad-Thara Lohana Samaj, confirmed that in the past one year, nearly 100 Hindu families, who had fled Pakistan and come to Gujarat for security and a better life, had gone back.
"It is ironical, Hindu organizations have launched 'Ghar Wapsi' campaign to bring Hindus who had converted to Islam back into their fold but they do little to embrace those who are their own," said Bhimani.
Dr Ramesh Lohana, 38, left his successful practice in Karachi in December 2012 for a secure life in Ahmedabad. Now, a disillusioned man, he is waiting for his children's exams to be over so that he can go back to Pakistan.
"My practice earned me Rs 2.5 lakh a month. Here, no hospital was willing to give me a job. I was forced to take up a supervisory job in a garments shop for Rs 25,000. Authorities and ordinary people look at us with suspicion. We feel like second-class citizens," said Dr Lohana who is preparing to leave in April.

Riaz Haq said...

Video: It is time to make #India free of #Muslims, says Sadhvi Prachi of #VHP. #Modi #BJP http://indianexpress.com/article/india/india-news-india/sadhvi-prachi-make-india-muslim-free-2839903/ … via @vuukle


Touching off a controversy, VHP leader Sadhvi Prachi on Tuesday said it is time to make India free of Muslims.
Known for courting controversies, the Sadhvi claimed the mission of a Congress-free India has already been “accomplished” and it is now time to rid the country of Muslims.
“Now that we have achieved the mission of making a Congress-free India, it is time to make India Muslim-free. We are working on that,” she said in Roorkee where at least 32 people were injured last week in a clash between two communities over forcible evacuation of a scrap dealer’s shop.


Khanpur MLA Kunwar Pranav Singh Champion’s house was attacked by members of a community alleging their sacred book was also desecrated by his supporters. The Sadhvi claimed that the attack on Champion’s house was part of a premeditated conspiracy.
Champion, one of the nine Congress MLAs who revolted against Chief Minister Harish Rawat, recently joined BJP.


On the forthcoming Uttar Pradesh Assembly polls, she said if BJP projects Yogi Adityananth as its chief ministerial candidate, it was bound to win 300 seats in the state.
Prachi had often been in the news for asking people to boycott films of Bollywood Khans and demanding a CBI probe into all Muslim educational institutions including Aligarh Muslim University and madrasas in Deoband to check anti-national activities.

Ramesh said...

Sadhvi Prachi is nobody now.

http://zeenews.india.com/news/india/sadhvi-prachi-not-a-vhp-leader-says-vishwa-hindu-parishad_1861127.html

Riaz Haq said...

Ramesh: " Sadhvi Prachi is nobody now. "


How about Pravenn Togadia? Is he also no longer VHP?

Will raise India's Hindu population to 100% from 82%: Togadia

A day after RSS chief Mohan Bhagwat described India as a "Hindu rashtra", senior Vishwa Hindu Parishad (VHP) leader Praveen Togadia on Sunday said efforts will be made to "increase" the percentage of Hindus in the country, but skirted the issue of religious conversion.
He also said Bhagwat's assertion of "Hindu rashtra (Hindu nation)" at the Kolkata convention is like a "gospel" for VHP.
"We are going to take percentage of Hindus to 100 in country. Currently there are 82 per cent Hindus in India, and we don't want this number to be halved. We won't tolerate Hindus becoming a minority in the country," Togadia, who is also international working president of VHP, said while addressing a function here.
Togadia however skirted the issue of religious conversions during his address.

Alleging that innocent Hindus are "being converted" to other faiths by "allurement", including cash, Togadia said VHP will provide security to Hindus in the country besides whatever help they may need in foreign countries.
Reiterating VHP's opposition to "Love jihad", Togadia said that his outfit wants to "eradicate the social evil of caste from Hindu society".
In his address to a Hindu convention in Kolkata yesterday, Bhagwat had defended the current controversial campaign of the Sangh Parivar and dared the opposition to support a law banning religious conversions. He had also described the country as a "Hindu rashtra." To a query on the issue of religious conversion, Togadia refused to comment, saying, "a raging debate is already going on in Parliament on this issue."
"VHP is awakening 100 crore Hindus of the country so that each one of them will get food, education, medicine and employment," Togadia said replying to a query whether the focus on religious conversions by various Sangh Pariwar outfits is at variance with the talk of development by Prime Minister Narendra Modi.

http://www.firstpost.com/india/will-raise-indias-hindu-population-to-100-from-82-togadia-2001047.html

Riaz Haq said...

Global Migration? Actually, The World Is Staying Home

http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/why-global-migration-statistics-do-not-add-up-a-1090736.html


The refugee debate creates the impression of unprecedented mass migration. That image is completely incorrect. The real question, when we look at migration globally, is why there is so little of it.


Take a tape measure. Unroll the tape to about two meters (six feet) and place one end against a wall. The distance between you and the wall corresponds to the world population of about 7.3 billion people. The number of people worldwide who left their native countries in the last five years -- in other words, migrated -- takes up about one centimeter (three-eighths of an inch) of the tape measure. That number amounted to 36.5 million, or 0.5 percent of the world's population. All others, or 99.5 percent of the global population, are non-migrants, or people who were living in the same country in 2015 as in 2010. They represent the other 199 centimeters on the tape measure.

The basic problem, Abel explains, is that all migration figures come from the United Nations, which measures migration by combining the numbers of migrants and refugees from all countries. The UN defines migrants as "persons living in a country other than where they were born." The data are derived from individual countries' censuses and refugee registries.

In a recent press release, the UN announced the latest total number as follows: "The number of international migrants -- reached 244 million in 2015 for the world as a whole, an increase of 71 million, or 41 percent, compared to 2000."

244,000,000: What a huge number!

41 percent -- an increase of almost half!

Well.

First, let's take a look at the 41 percent increase. It relates to absolute numbers, which are not reasonable benchmarks here. In 2000, the UN counted 173 million migrants. That was 2.8 percent of the global population of 6.1 billion at the time. Since then, the world population has grown to 7.3 billion, so that the 244 million migrants in 2015 make up 3.3 percent of that total.

So why doesn't the UN communicate the information as follows: "Since the year 2000, the share of migrants in the world population grew by 0.5 percentage points?" Because it sounds less concerning?

Here's the situation. The UN doesn't receive enough money. Its World Food Program, for example, is radically underfunded, as are its aid campaigns for Syria. Coming from this position of need, the UN always turns up the volume when announcing its figures. Dependent as it is on money from its members to relieve its distress, the UN underpins its appeals with dramatic terms like "all-time high," "new maximum" and "record low." By doing so, it contributes significantly to the imbalance in the migration debate.

But the bigger problem lies in the number itself, 244 million. Why?

"The figure has several serious weaknesses," says Abel, and yet it is spread around the globe by hundreds of media organizations, press agencies, NGOs, politicians and even academics. Numbers like these, or their international equivalents, from which they are derived, serve as the basis for debates, studies and laws. Why? Because there is no more credible source than the UN. This widespread perception leads to phrases like these: "The world has 41 percent more migrants now than in 2000, UN reports" (Toronto Star). "UN: Number of global migrants soars to 244 million" (Newsweek). Or, conversely and especially distorting, on the website of Swiss television: "Fewer and fewer people are living in their native countries."

The number, 244 million, isn't incorrect. It just says very little about all the things you would want to know when you think about migration.

Riaz Haq said...

#Modi's #India: #Muslim man struggles with freedom 23 years after 'wrong' conviction on false #terrorism charges http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-36431935

India's Supreme Court acquitted Nisar-ud-din Ahmad of terrorism offences last month, after he had spent 23 years in prison. He tells BBC Hindi's Imran Qureshi that he is struggling to start his life afresh at the age of 43.
Mr Ahmad and two others were released from a jail in the northern Indian state of Rajasthan after the Supreme Court overturned their convictions in terrorism offences, citing insufficient evidence.
They had been convicted by lower courts of planning blasts in five trains in December 1993, which killed two passengers and injured another eight.
More than two decades later, Mr Ahmad said his family was struggling to believe that he had actually returned to his home in Gulbarga in the southern state of Karnataka.
"My mother comes and touches my head in the middle of the night just to be sure that she is not dreaming her son is home," he said.
He added that the police had built their case against him on what he called "fabricated confessions" allegedly taken from him, his elder brother Zahir-ud-din Ahmad and two others.
But the top court said in its ruling that "the conviction and sentence [of Mr Ahmad] is completely unsustainable".
"In the absence of any other material on record to lend any semblance of corroboration to the confession, we find it extremely difficult to sustain the conviction and sentence...," the court said.
'Fabricated confession'
Mr Ahmad still vividly remembers the day he was arrested by the police on 15 January 1994.
He had been getting ready to go to his pharmacy college.
"I was held illegally for 43 days before they produced me before a magistrate. They beat me, tortured me, hung me upside down and beat me some more. I begged and pleaded with them to let me know what wrong I had committed. Then they made me sign a fabricated confession," he told BBC Hindi.

Anonymous said...

Musdlims ont deserve to live i India.
They asked for a separate country and they got it.
So now they should pack their bags and get lost.
or else they will be kicked out.

Riaz Haq said...

Why #Bangladesh is a bigger threat to #India than #Pakistan today. #ISIS #AlQaeda #Taliban http://www.oneindia.com/feature/why-bangladesh-is-bigger-threat-india-than-pakistan-today-2131965.html?utm_source=article&utm_medium=tweet-button&utm_campaign=article-tweet … via @oneindia

The worry is of course the radicals' reaching the eastern border and the opportunity is to bring Dhaka closer to New Delhi than it is to Beijing for China has shown a determination in challenging India by encircling it through the smaller countries in South Asia. New Delhi needs to engage with Bangladesh for it poses a bigger security threat than Pakistan today. At the same time, it offers a huge economic opportunity to integrate South Asia like never before. IS has a better chance of reaching India via the eastern front The IS has a better chance to flourish in Bangladesh and enter India from the east for two reasons: first, the IS has a bigger challenge to reach India from the west owing to the presence of the Taliban in Afghanistan and Pakistan. Bangladesh, on the other other hand, is a more fertile territory for the IS to grow, thanks to the country's shrunk space for media and other freedom and the inability of the government to deal with the problem. Secondly, India has a more clumsy border to the east which is also given lesser strategic significance compared to that with Pakistan or China. We have seen in the recent past how extremist elements have been entering easily in the border state of West Bengal and conducting sinister activities. If New Delhi doesn't act to tighten things up in the east, the potential of India-Bangladesh relations could not just be ruined but even India's internal security would be jeopardised.

Read more at: http://www.oneindia.com/feature/why-bangladesh-is-bigger-threat-india-than-pakistan-today-2131965.html

Riaz Haq said...

As 7th largest immigrant population, #Pakistanis not eligible for US diversity visa. #Pakistan #America #Immigration

http://tribune.com.pk/story/1147303/7th-largest-immigrants-pakistanis-no-longer-eligible-us-diversity-visa/

According to the US law, diversity laws are only allowed to counties that have low rates of immigrants, said US consulate in Karachi’s spokesperson Brian Asmus, during a media tour of the Karachi consulate’s visa section on Friday. Pakistan had 104,000 immigrants in the 10 years between 2005 and 2014, he said, explaining why Pakistanis are no longer eligible.

The state department has only stopped diversity visas and there are a lot of other options, such as petitions, student, visit and exchange programme visas, which come under the non-immigrant category. “One can always apply for immigrant visa if they have immediate family in the US,” explained US consulate’s Non-Immigrant Visa chief Mary Pellegrini.

She also explained that it takes around one year for spouse and children, two years for parents and, for siblings, the time can vary up to a decade.

Nevertheless, the Pakistanis who have managed to immigrate are doing pretty well. According to a recent survey, an average Pakistani in the US earns $63,000 every year while an average US citizen earns only $51,000 a year, said Asmus.

Asmus dismissed the misconception that fewer Pakistanis are able to get visa for the US. The percentage of applications is increasing every year and the number of Pakistani citizens getting visas has also increased by 20% between 2014 and 2015, and another 20% between 2015 and 2016, he said.

The US Consulate in Karachi only deals in non-immigrant visas while immigrants visas are dealt at the embassy in Islamabad. Last year, the consulate issued a total of 72,000 visas across the country. So far in 2016, the US consulate in Karachi has issued a total of 14,400 visas.