American billionaire and President-Elect Donald Trump's confidante Elon Musk's recent tweets have revived the allegations by the far right that the British Pakistani gangs are mainly responsible for sex crimes against children in the United Kingdom. Earlier, these claims were repeated by former British Home Secretary Suella Braverman when she said in a television interview that child grooming gangs in the UK were “almost all British-Pakistani”. This claim elicited a strong response by British Press regulator IPSO which said that Braverman’s decision to link “the identified ethnic group and a particular form of offending was significantly misleading” because the (British) Home Office’s own research had concluded offenders were mainly from white backgrounds. The British Home Office Report on Group-Based Child Sexual Exploitation (December 2021) said that while some high-profile cases involved men of Pakistani ethnicity (2%), the academic literature suggests that group-based child sexual exploitation offenders are most commonly white (88%), according to Professor Tahid Abbas's blog for the London School of Economics.
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| Grooming Gang Sex Crimes Stats. Source: Financial Times |
Let's examine what the official statistics reveal about sex crimes in England and Wales. It shows that grooming gangs account for a small fraction (3.7%) of child sexual abuse, even when looking just at group offending. In 2023, there were 4,428 reported offline sexual offenses committed by groups, according to official data for England and Wales published in November, the first time a detailed breakdown has been made available. These accounted for 3.7% of all child sexual abuse crimes. Of these crimes, grooming gangs — organized networks of criminals who target children — accounted for 17%, or 717 crimes, according to the Financial Times.
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| Sex Crimes Against British Children. Source: UK Ministry of Justice Via LSE |
In terms of ethnicity, Pakistani defendants account for 2% (same as their proportion in the general population) of all defendants charged with sex crimes against children. White defendants make up 88%, proportionally more than the 83% of their numbers in general population in England and Wales, according to the UK Ministry of Justice.
Group-based child abuse represents less than 1% of sex crimes against children. Pakistanis account for 3.9% in this specific category, according to the UK Police Chiefs Council. The figure rises for Pakistani offenders to 13.7% if you remove institutional groups, such as sports groups, schools and church-based group offenders, and group child abuse committed in a family setting.
Clearly, the British government data doesn't support the allegations made by former UK Home Secretary Suella Braverman and tweeted by Elon Musk. So what is their motivation for it? The only conclusion one can draw is that both Braverman and Musk are motivated by Islamophobia and anti-Muslim racism. The demonization of Muslim men has become a common theme in public discourse, with a “Muslim bashing” mentality, particularly among the far right groups in the West.
It is important to mention that British Pakistanis who make up just 2% of the general population represent 3.7% of all British doctors.
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Truth is more potent than cherry-picking data to absolve one's ethnic group in horrific child sexual abuse (CSA) crimes.
Please Use the following prompt in ChatGPT.
" Please create a table of 2023 CSA data from the Child Abuse Taskforce representing % of the total population vs % of offenders ethnic background. "
ChatGPT output
Ethnic Group Percent of Total Pop % CSA Offenders
White 81.7% 63%
Pakistani 2.7% 13.7%
Other Asian 6.6% 5.3%
Black 3.4% 4%
Mixed Race 3.3% 7%
Avi: "Truth is more potent than cherry-picking data to absolve one's ethnic group in horrific child sexual abuse (CSA) crimes"
Group-based child abuse represents less than 1% of sex crimes against children. Pakistanis account for 3.9% in this specific category, according to the UK Police Chiefs Council. The figure rises for Pakistani offenders to 13.7% if you remove institutional groups, such as sports groups, schools and church-based group offenders, and group child abuse committed in a family setting.
https://news.sky.com/story/wrong-to-say-group-based-child-abuse-is-predominantly-committed-by-pakistani-men-police-chiefs-13286550
Wrong to say group-based child abuse is predominantly committed by Pakistani men - police chiefs
It's important to address "all the threats from all races and ethnicities", warns Assistant Chief Constable Becky Riggs, the National Police Chiefs' Council's lead for child protection and abuse investigation.
https://news.sky.com/story/wrong-to-say-group-based-child-abuse-is-predominantly-committed-by-pakistani-men-police-chiefs-13286550
Riaz
Cut to the chase; I am happy you admit that Pakstani-Muslim heritage men have been convicted as rapists of girl-child FIVE times higher.
Do not confuse the issue with the garbage of "group" - sports group, etc.
Educate your Muslim men to learn some humanity and STOP this abuse of helpless and innocent children.
But it will never happen since you have enablers like Porus to try their best to obfuscate a simple issue.
Avi,
Your statement that "Pakstani-Muslim heritage men have been convicted as rapists of girl-child FIVE times higher" makes no sense.
It's obvious that you are incapable of understanding the data I shared from the UK Police Chiefs.
Or your bigotry blinds you to the facts as explained by them.
Read below and see if you are capable of comprehending it:
https://news.sky.com/story/wrong-to-say-group-based-child-abuse-is-predominantly-committed-by-pakistani-men-police-chiefs-13286550
It is wrong to say group-based child abuse is predominantly committed by Pakistani men, the National Police Chiefs' Council (NPCC) has said.
Figures from the police database show where ethnicity is recorded, that in the first three quarters of 2024 - 85% of group-based child abusers were white, while 3.9% were of Pakistani origin.
The figure increases for Pakistani offenders to 13.7% if you remove institutional groups, such as sports groups, schools and church-based group offenders, and group child abuse committed in a family setting.
The same calculation for 2023 showed 70% of offenders were white, and 6.9% were Pakistani.
So, in this specific category, there is a disproportionate representation to the number of Pakistanis in the population. However, this only relates to a very defined, and small section of the overall child abuse data.
It is the first time data has been collated in this way, but it is important to note that because data is collected early in an investigation, often data on "self-defined ethnicity" has not yet been recorded. As a result, only 30% of records have ethnicity.
However, group-based child abuse is only a fraction of all child abuse.
For example, out of 28,556 offences in the third quarter of last year, only 986 were group based. In addition, based on the first three quarters of last year, only 18% of these group-based offences fall into the category of street-based grooming.
Riaz
Could you let me know if you quoted this?:
"Group-based child abuse represents less than 1% of sex crimes against children. Pakistanis account for 3.9% in this specific category, according to the UK Police Chiefs Council. The figure rises for Pakistani offenders to 13.7% if you remove institutional groups, such as sports groups, schools and church-based group offenders, and group child abuse committed in a family setting."
Since Pakistanis are 2.7% of the population, simple maths is 13.7/2.7 = 5 (FIME TIMES)
What is not clear?
Let me know.
Avi,
It means Pakistani grooming gangs represent 3.9% of 1% of all sex crimes against children. 3.9% of 1% is 0.039%.
If you exclude institutional groups such as sports and church and family groups, then Pakistani grooming gangs represent 13.7% of 1% of all sex crimes against children. 13.7% of 1% is 0.137%.
It's very specific to one small category of sex crimes against children.
Please read the report about what the police chiefs said:
https://news.sky.com/story/wrong-to-say-group-based-child-abuse-is-predominantly-committed-by-pakistani-men-police-chiefs-13286550
So, in this specific category (grooming), there is a disproportionate representation to the number of Pakistanis in the population. However, this only relates to a very defined, and small section of the overall child abuse data.
It is the first time data has been collated in this way, but it is important to note that because data is collected early in an investigation, often data on "self-defined ethnicity" has not yet been recorded. As a result, only 30% of records have ethnicity.
However, group-based child abuse is only a fraction of all child abuse.
For example, out of 28,556 offences in the third quarter of last year, only 986 were group based. In addition, based on the first three quarters of last year, only 18% of these group-based offences fall into the category of street-based grooming.
On what basis the data has been sorted in the table that is provided above ??
1. How come "Indian %" come on top of Pakistani and Bangladeshi below. So it means it is neither sorted on Alphabets nor sorted on the basis of "child sexual abuse".
2. What it seems to be sorted on basis of Population % by ethnicity and what is the purpose of sorting data in this order when this data and article is about numbers & percent of child abuse.
3. Even this sorting order fails when you look at numbers at "White and black Carribean" category.
Seems like this data has been custom sorted to purposely put some ethnicities on top to give a false impression in comparison to other ethnicities.
The intentions of this data presentation is itself in doubt now and I even doubt the numbers.
IMO, the issues in the United Kingdom are:
1. The tragedy of the children who were and are continuing to be abused.
2. Poor investigation and prosecution under the available criminal law, because of vote banking and because of misguided multi-culturalism.
Some ethnic/racial/religious/national-origin group could be more prone to commit certain kinds of crimes than other groups; but a well-functioning criminal system will quickly nip that in the bud.
3. Alleged tolerance/turning a blind eye by community leaders of criminal elements in their community.
This is where the communities in question need to do some soul-searching and change their (collective) behaviors.
The claim is that the attitude that white girls are trash and it is legitimate to exploit them is behind these crimes. This is something for the communities in the UK to correct.
Is the claim true? I don't know. Is the claim plausible? Unfortunately, yes. Such prejudices exist.
E.g., Raza Rumi in a recent Blackhole said that when he went to the UK, he used to feel, how could such nice people who helped him be destined for hell, as non-Muslims? And he said that he had no religious education, nor was his family devout, he just absorbed that attitude from school and media in Pakistan, and that it took him some effort to outgrow this attitude. In a less educated person this conditioning may lead to the attitude that some other class of humans is disposable.
Elon Musk 'misinformed' on grooming gangs, says Wes Streeting
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/czxdzng92lno
Police figures from 2023 reveal that group-based child sexual abuse accounted for 3.7% of all sexual offences against children reported to police.
https://www.hydrantprogramme.co.uk/assets/Documents/CSE-Taskforce-Group-Based-Offending-Publication-November-2024.pdf
According to the data, 26% of group-based child sexual abuse happened within families, compared with 17% involving groups including grooming gangs.
Schools, clubs and religious institutions accounted for 9%.
There have been numerous investigations into the systematic rape of girls and young women by organised gangs, including in Rotherham, Cornwall, Derbyshire and Bristol.
Inquiries into Greater Manchester Police's (GMP) handling of historical child sex abuse cases in Manchester, Oldham and Rochdale have also been carried out.
Mayor of Greater Manchester Andy Burnham said tackling grooming gangs was "not something to be politicised".
"We've done this when others were looking in a different direction," Burnham added.
"This is something to be faced up to fully and unflinchingly in my view."
Earlier on Friday, health minister Andrew Gwynne suggested Musk "ought to focus" on US politics, where he is set to act as an unelected adviser to the Trump administration on cutting federal spending.
Speaking to LBC Radio, Gwynne added that child grooming was a "very serious issue", pointing to previous investigations which had taken place into sexual abuse scandals.
"There comes a point where we don't need more inquiries, and had Elon Musk really paid attention to what's been going on in this country, he might have recognised that there have already been inquiries," he said.
Failing victims, fuelling hate: challenging the harms of the ‘Muslim grooming gangs’ narrative - Ella Cockbain, Waqas Tufail, 2020
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/0306396819895727
Abstract
‘Muslim grooming gangs’ have become a defining feature of media, political and public debate around child sexual exploitation in the UK. The dominant narrative that has emerged to explain a series of horrific cases is misleading, sensationalist and has in itself promoted a number of harms. This article examines how racist framings of ‘Muslim grooming gangs’ exist not only in extremist, far-right fringes but in mainstream, liberal discourses too. The involvement of supposedly feminist and liberal actors and the promotion of pseudoscientific ‘research’ have lent a veneer of legitimacy to essentialist, Orientalist stereotypes of Muslim men, the demonisation of whole communities and demands for collective responsibility. These developments are situated in the broader socio-political context, including the far Right’s weaponisation of women’s rights, the ‘Islamophobia industry’ and a long history of racialising crime. We propose alternative ways of understanding and responding to child sexual exploitation/abuse. We contend that genuinely anti-racist feminist approaches can help in centring victims/survivors and their needs and in tackling serious sexual violence without demonising entire communities.
Most grooming gang offences carried out by white men, police chiefs say
https://www.times-series.co.uk/news/national/24849607.grooming-gang-offences-carried-white-men-police-chiefs-say/
Main facts and figures
https://www.ethnicity-facts-figures.service.gov.uk/crime-justice-and-the-law/policing/number-of-arrests/latest/
White Men, Not Pakistanis, Responsible for Most Grooming Gang Crimes: NPCC Report
https://khybernews.tv/white-men-not-pakistanis-responsible-for-most-grooming-gang-crimes-npcc-report/
Financial Times' Ed Luce on Elon Musk's tweets on grooming gangs scandal: CNN.com - Transcripts
https://transcripts.cnn.com/show/fzgps/date/2025-01-12/segment/01
"And there have, of course, been other child abuse scandals in the church of England, the Catholic Church, the Boy Scouts, private schools, as you've seen in other countries that have not been mentioned by Elon Musk and that haven't had this kind of publicity"
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Fareed Zakaria: I'm just trying to understand, is there any basis for implicating him (PM Kier Starmer) in this scandal?
LUCE: No, there's no factual basis. It's true that he was director of public prosecutions in Britain, which is kind of the equivalent of attorney general, but also solicitor general. When that scandal broke in 2012, he then stepped up what was clearly a very lax system. He sort of tightened up the Crown Prosecution Service, which he was in charge of, to try to prevent such a recurrence of, you know, what was clearly a massive sort of fail by the system.
And he then began the prosecutions that are ongoing. But we've got, you know, a pretty long legacy now of trials in this case. And there have, of course, been other child abuse scandals in the church of England, the Catholic Church, the Boy Scouts, private schools, as you've seen in other countries that have not been mentioned by Elon Musk and that haven't had this kind of publicity.
ZAKARIA: And Musk doesn't like Keir Starmer. He's been encouraging the Reform Party, which used to be called the UKIP Party, the pro-Brexit party, to essentially rise. He's calling for new elections. Do you understand what that's about?
LUCE: Yes. I mean, he's a big fan of far-right parties, not just in Britain but in Germany. As you know, the Alternative for Deutschland, the far-right German party, he's saying is the only possible savior of Germany. And Nigel Farage's Reform Party in the U.K. similarly, he believes, will be the savior of Britain.
The context is the conservatives were defeated last summer by the Keir Starmer's Labour Party, and the conservatives are competing with reform for the far-right vote. They're moving to the right and Nigel Farage's Reform is moving to the left to make it a bit more electable. And they're roughly neck and neck in the polls. So there is this sort of battle as to who can be more right-wing and who can claim the mantle of sort of being a Trumpian British Conservative Party.
And Musk's interventions in favor of reform should be seen in that context. The reality is that Musk is not popular in Britain. The approval ratings I think a few years ago for him, when he was seen principally as a space guy and an EV guy, were very high. There are now fewer than 1 in 5 British people approve of Musk. So I think there are diminishing returns to this kind of really unprecedented intervention in another democracy.
I wish the western (christian) world showed around 3% of interest shown towards this issue to the systematic sex abuse within the church...numbers would be much more shocking as what had come out is largely tip of the iceberg.
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