tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5848640164815342479.post8596334250848509462..comments2024-03-18T16:01:13.871-07:00Comments on Haq's Musings: FAQs on India's Massive 34% Defense Budget HikeRiaz Haqhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00522781692886598586noreply@blogger.comBlogger30125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5848640164815342479.post-34749449353370876332018-04-28T18:18:03.289-07:002018-04-28T18:18:03.289-07:00Pakistan announces $9.6 billion defense budget
h...Pakistan announces $9.6 billion defense budget <br /><br />http://www.arabnews.com/node/1293126/business-economy<br /><br />The defense budget for the next fiscal year is up 10.22 percent<br />India and China are among the world’s top five spenders on defense, with the former spending $45 billion<br />ISLAMABAD: Pakistan’s government has announced a defense budget of 1.1 trillion rupees ($9.6 billion) for the 2018-19 fiscal year, up 10.22 percent.<br /><br />Defense expenditure is 21 percent of the total budget of 5.932 trillion rupees for the next fiscal year, and 3.2 percent of gross domestic product (GDP).<br /><br />Finance Minister Miftah Ismail lauded the military’s sacrifices while presenting the budget in the National Assembly on Friday.<br /><br />“Our military and paramilitary apparatus has fought hard and laid their precious lives for our country,” he said.<br /><br />“The last hideouts of militants in North Waziristan have been eliminated through operation Zarb-e-Azb.”<br /><br />Defense and security analysts link the increased defense budget to the devaluation of the rupee in recent months and subsequent inflation.<br /><br />Defense analyst Amjad Shoaib said the increase is insufficient given the government’s claim that Pakistan is fighting militants without foreign assistance.<br /><br />The military requires extra funds for border fencing and establishing forts along the border with Afghanistan, he added.<br /><br />The defense budget does not include allocations for major planned military hardware acquisitions from the international market. It also does not mention expenditure on Pakistan’s nuclear and missile programs. <br /><br />On Jan. 4, State Department spokeswoman Heather Nauert said the US was suspending its entire security assistance to Pakistan until it proves its commitment to fighting all terrorist groups operating in the region.<br /><br />The US has withheld $350 million to Pakistan in security assistance, known as the Coalition Support Fund.<br /><br />Retired Air Marshal Shahid Lateef said military expenses have increased manifold due to multiple engagements along the borders and within the country.<br /><br />“Our military is faced with fifth-generation warfare, and it needs billions of rupees other than the defense allocations to deal with the threat,” he told Arab News.<br /><br />Pakistan’s neighbors India and China are among world’s top five defense spenders, with New Delhi allocating $45 billion this year.Riaz Haqhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00522781692886598586noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5848640164815342479.post-6567000417798897372013-03-01T10:25:53.850-08:002013-03-01T10:25:53.850-08:00Are you happy with this news?
March 01, 2013:
ht...Are you happy with this news?<br /><br />March 01, 2013: <br />http://alturl.com/7mx97<br /><br />Hopewinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07885301987622998733noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5848640164815342479.post-33514068299861127382012-03-28T08:09:16.806-07:002012-03-28T08:09:16.806-07:00Here's an AFP story on Indian Army chief's...Here's an <a href="http://tribune.com.pk/story/356360/leaked-letter-reveals-indias-military-weaknesses/" rel="nofollow">AFP story</a> on Indian Army chief's leaked memo:<br /><br /><i> India’s tank fleet lacks ammunition, its air defences are “97 percent obsolete” and its elite forces lack essential arms, the country’s army chief wrote in an explosive letter leaked Wednesday.<br /><br />The letter to the prime minister dated March 12 – widely reported by the Indian media – lists the shortcomings of the armed forces in embarrassing detail in a blow to the government and the Asian giant’s military prestige.<br /><br />Its publication also ups the stakes in a public battle between army chief General VK Singh and the government which began with a dispute over Singh’s retirement earlier this year.<br /><br />“The state of the major (fighting) arms i.e. mechanised forces, artillery, air defence, infantry and special forces, as well as the engineers and signals, is indeed alarming,” Singh wrote in the letter, DNA newspaper reported.<br /><br />The army’s entire tank fleet is “devoid of critical ammunition to defeat enemy tanks”, while the air defence system is “97% obsolete and it doesn’t give the deemed confidence to protect… from the air,” he wrote, according to DNA.<br /><br />The infantry is crippled with “deficiencies” and lacks night fighting equipment, while the elite special forces are “woefully short” of “essential weapons”.<br /><br />Singh also told The Hindu newspaper this week that he had informed Defence Minister A.K Antony of a $2.8 million bribe offered to him in 2010, leading to embarrassing questions as to why the government did not order an enquiry.<br /><br />Antony told parliament on Wednesday that he was aware of the letter to Prime Minister Manmohan Singh and he would reply appropriately.</i><br /><br />http://tribune.com.pk/story/356360/leaked-letter-reveals-indias-military-weaknesses/Riaz Haqhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00522781692886598586noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5848640164815342479.post-12196286980421144392011-05-28T20:18:20.756-07:002011-05-28T20:18:20.756-07:00Here's a Counterpunch Op Ed by Yasmin Qureshi ...Here's a <a href="http://www.counterpunch.org/qureshi05272011.html" rel="nofollow">Counterpunch Op Ed</a> by Yasmin Qureshi on "Militarization of India":<br /><br /><i>India is today the world's largest importer of arms. These include fighter jet planes, missiles and radar systems for strategic partnerships and geo-political power. India is also investing in security and surveillance to combat foreign threats and resistance from its own people in places like the Kashmir valley, and the North East and tribal regions of Central India. This provides tremendous opportunity for multi-national corporations to sell and invest in India, a country marching ahead as an economic and military power.<br /><br />A report from the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute's (SIPRI) March 14, 2011 revealed that India received 9 per cent of the volume of international arms transfers during 2006–10. The international consultancy firm KPMG estimates that India will sign military contracts worth $112 billion by 2016.<br /><br />This year India increased annual defense spending by about 11.6 percent to $36 billion in order to modernize the armed forces to counter the military inflation and strategic threats posed by China's rapidly expanding military capabilities..<br /><br />In sharp contrast, allocation for agri culture and allied activities was reduced by 2 percent and allocation of non-plan expenditures on all social services declined by 14 percent from approximately $7.8 billion in 2009-10 to $6.6 billion for 2010-11. The World Bank estimates that 80% of India's population lives on less than $2 a day, comparable to sub-Saharan Africa.<br /><br />Corporate Diplomacy to Secure Arms Deals<br /><br />With assistance from their governments, arms corporations in countries such as Russia, US, France, Britain, Sweden and Israel are competing to procure million and billion dollar deals with India.<br /><br />Last year India saw an unprecedented series of diplomatic visits from head of states of nuclear and defense powers. Notably chief executives of major nuclear and defense corporations had escorted the head of states on their visits. British Prime Minister David Cameron's visit to India in July was followed by US President Obama's in November and by French President Nicolas Sarkozy's in December.<br /><br />A $779 million contract was signed for 57 BAE Systems Hawk advanced jet trainers for the Indian military during Cameron's visit. Engine maker Rolls-Royce clinched a $280 million deal to supply engines for the jet trainers for the Indian air force and navy. Seven agreements in key areas such as defense, space and nuclear energy were signed during Sarkozy's visit.<br /><br />US President Obama and Secretary of State Hilary Clinton's visits in 2010 were also about strengthening economic and strategic partnerships. Twenty deals totaling nearly $10 billion dollars in U.S. exports were signed during the President's visit. Following that visit, the US reformed its export control regime and removed key Indian defense and civil space entities from U.S. restricted lists to help boost high technology exports and allow for enhanced defense and space cooperation with India.<br /><br />The close nexus of corporations and governments is evident from the resignation of Timothy J. Roemer as US Ambassador to India on April 28, 2011, soon after the announcement that two US corporations, Boeing and Lockheed Martin had lost the race for procuring a $10 billion contract to supply 126 fighter jets to the Indian Air Force. The US is still hopeful a four billion dollar sale of C17 aircraft will be finalized soon. French company Dassault's Rafale and the Typhoon from the Eurofighter consortium (representing Germany and Spain, Britain's BAE Systems and Italy's Finmeccanica) have been shortlisted.</i>Riaz Haqhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00522781692886598586noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5848640164815342479.post-74715081500932758822010-10-16T21:42:21.000-07:002010-10-16T21:42:21.000-07:00In a recent interview, Indian Army chief Gen Singh...In a recent <a href="http://www.tribuneindia.com/2010/20101017/edit.htm#1" rel="nofollow">interview</a>, Indian Army chief Gen Singh talks about "fighting through our area which has been contaminated by a nuclear strike. We are confident that we will get through in such contaminated areas and this is part of our training methodology, doctrine and our concept". <br /><br />It begs the questions: Is Mr Singh breeding super jawans immune to radiation?<br /><br />I think Gen VK Singh's thinking is naive and dangerously out of date, it's as old as the 1950s when the Americans were building shelters in their basements to survive nuclear attack by the Soviet Union. I hope someone puts some sense into Singh's empty little hand about the reality of modern nuclear warfare.Riaz Haqhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00522781692886598586noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5848640164815342479.post-60666521985315424432010-09-16T16:55:19.522-07:002010-09-16T16:55:19.522-07:00To get a peek into the Indian psyche, read the fol...To get a peek into the Indian psyche, read the following advice offered by Financial Times to David Cameron prior to his recent India trip: <br /><br /><i>The first is 'Kashmir', he says. Recalling controversial utterances by previous British foreign secretaries like Robin Cook and David Miliband, Barker tells Cameron: "The quickest way to turn a charm offensive into a diplomatic fiasco. The basic rule: British ministers should say nothing. Don't dare criticise, offer to help, or link bringing peace to tackling terrorism. Stray words have consequences."<br /><br />The second is 'Poverty'. "More poor people than anywhere on earth. But not worth mentioning too loudly. Talk about the New India instead. Mention the aid review. A patronising tone is fatal."<br /><br />The third, 'Coming over too fresh'. Barker says: "The young, dynamic, no-nonsense version of Cameron should probably be left behind. It's time to learn some manners. Indian politicians are, as a rule, double his age and four times as grand. If the meetings are stuffy, formal, overbearingly polite, that's a good thing."<br /><br />The fourth is the 'Immigration cap'. The columnist writes: "A big issue for the Indian elite. Anand Sharma, the commerce minister, raised his 'concerns' earlier this month with Cameron himself. A heavily bureaucratic and stingy visa regime will not encourage Indians to work or study in Britain."</i><br /><br /><br />Read more: Don't mention Kashmir, poverty in India, UK PM advised - The Times of India http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/uk/Dont-mention-Kashmir-poverty-in-India-UK-PM-advised/articleshow/6226174.cms#ixzz0zjt5WfSgRiaz Haqhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00522781692886598586noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5848640164815342479.post-84527708099369470752010-09-09T23:19:25.042-07:002010-09-09T23:19:25.042-07:00Here's an excerpt from a recent report by Jawe...Here's an excerpt from a recent report by Jawed Naqvi, <a href="http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/dawn-content-library/dawn/the-newspaper/columnists/jawed-naqvi-kashmirs-struggle-is-just-one-of-many-fighting-indian-injustices-690-sk-05" rel="nofollow">Dawn</a>'s New Delhi correspondent:<br /><br /><i>A particularly disturbing slogan heard in the Kashmir Valley, where its young school-goers and old patriarchs, angry women and restive youth are courageously defying Indian rule, is enough to put off any sensitive sympathiser. “Bhooka nanga Hindustan; Jaan se pyaara Pakistan.” (Starving and tattered India we reject; Pakistan - land of our dreams - we embrace.)<br /><br />This slogan conveys acute political bankruptcy in a region which has lived with naked military repression for more than 20 years. I’m sure any Pakistani with a sense of justice would also be uncomfortable with the warped mindset the slogan betrays.<br /><br />That Kashmir is reeling under Indian occupation is not a secret. That Pakistan has played a questionable role there is also well known. Yet, for Kashmiris to see their struggle as part of the many battles being waged by the poorest of the poor against the Indian state’s multi-pronged injustices against its own people, would not compromise or be a contradiction in Kashmir’s struggle for self-determination. The simple question for Kashmiris to ask themselves is, isn’t the same state that has killed 60 young Kashmiris in three months, also responsible for tens of thousands of suicides by indebted farmers in India? Does Sharmila Irom, who is fighting to repeal the law that gives unbridled powers to security forces in her Manipur state have no relevance for the same struggle in Kashmir?<br /><br />The tribespeople of Chhatisgarh, Orissa, Jharkhand and West Bengal are fighting for their fundamental rights. One of their demands is that they not be evicted from their homes to accommodate corporate land grab. Is this not what Kashmiri Pandits suffered at the hands of the Indian state as well as non-state actors in their homeland without any redress from successive Indian governments that claim to represent them?</i><br /><br />http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/dawn-content-library/dawn/the-newspaper/columnists/jawed-naqvi-kashmirs-struggle-is-just-one-of-many-fighting-indian-injustices-690-sk-05Riaz Haqhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00522781692886598586noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5848640164815342479.post-15682980652163210672010-06-25T07:40:54.607-07:002010-06-25T07:40:54.607-07:00India's Debt-GDP ratio is worse than Pakistan&...India's Debt-GDP ratio is worse than Pakistan's. <br /><br />Here are excerpts from an interview with US investor Jim Rogers published in <a href="http://www.forbes.com/2010/03/15/forbes-india-debt-crisis-interview-jim-rogers_2.html" rel="nofollow">Forbes</a> March 2010 issue.<br /><br /><i> After all the budget euphoria, it is time for a reality check. Investor and venture capitalist Jim Rogers remains deeply skeptical of India's future. In an interview with S. Srinivasan, he argues that the country is sitting on a fiscal time bomb.<br /><br />Some specific global lessons or examples that India can adopt from other countries such as China?<br />Open your borders to foreign capital and brains. For example, foreigners cannot enter retailing in India, but Wal-Mart, etc. are all over China. Your politicians close down free commodity markets every time prices rise as if the markets were making the prices rise!<br /><br />Farmers can own only very, very small farms, so India cannot compete on the world stage, yet India should be one of the great agriculture nations of the world.<br /><br />What will it take to get you to invest in India?<br />Some sense of 21st-century reality. Open the economy [in areas] such as retailing, energy, agriculture, etc. Make the currency fully convertible.<br /><br />What are the lost opportunities in the budget, according to you?<br />The same things I just mentioned. Likewise why not start reducing the gigantic debt if things really “are getting better,” as he claims?<br /><br />You have watched India for a long time. Where do you think the country will go from here?<br />Continue muddling along until the reality of the huge debt-to-GNP [ratio] hits home and stops things.</i>Riaz Haqhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00522781692886598586noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5848640164815342479.post-20421392394096168422010-06-24T08:59:30.261-07:002010-06-24T08:59:30.261-07:00Here's Ahmad Rahid's take published by BBC...Here's Ahmad Rahid's take published by <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/10375056.stm" rel="nofollow">BBC</a> on Pakistan budget priorities for 2010-2011: <br /><br /><i>When the $38bn annual budget was announced in parliament on 5 June, legislators sat up when it was announced that defence spending would be $5.2bn for 2010-11 - a rise of 17% compared to last year or 13.7% of the total budget.<br /><br />Even more shocking news came a few days later when Saqib Shirani, principal economic adviser to the government, corrected that figure to say that actual defence spending for 2010-11 would be $7.9bn, a 30% rise compared to last year and 21% of the total budget.<br /><br />The government did not disclose how it accounted for some $1.3bn received over the past year in Coalition Support Funds (CSF) by the US administration for fighting "terrorism". <br /><br />With 28% of the budget being reserved this year for servicing Pakistan's huge external debt of $54bn, nearly 60% of the budget is taken up by just two items - defence spending and debt servicing.<br /><br />Almost the entire development budget of $9.2bn will be provided by outside donors.<br /><br />Meanwhile the country spends just 2% of Gross Domestic Product (GDP) on education, despite the fact that average literacy is only 57%. Even the army admits that the lack of education is fuelling militancy.<br /><br />However with the economy in a downward spiral and the government facing an internal funding crisis in the months ahead, Islamabad has begun to threaten the US.<br /><br />Retired Lt Gen Syed Akthar Ali told parliament that the US government had for two years willfully withheld billions of dollars of CSF that were owed to Pakistan.<br /><br />''The time that we have to rethink our security priorities about external threats is approaching,'' Mr Ali warned recently.<br /><br />"We will stop operations (in Fata) and go back to the eastern borders,'' he added threateningly.<br /><br />However he admitted that in the past six months the US had released $1.3bn in CSF arrears, but was still holding back payments of $1bn.<br /><br />Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani was equally blunt when he told visiting Richard Holbrooke, US special envoy for Pakistan and Afghanistan, that ''time is running out fast, public support can only be kept intact if the international community start delivering on their pledges.''<br /><br />At a conference in Tokyo a year ago, major donors who make up the "Friends of Pakistan" pledged $5bn in aid, but so far few pledges have been honoured except by the US.<br /><br />''There is grand disillusionment amongst the Europeans for Pakistan's refusal to address our concerns - transparency about aid funds, improving governance, using aid money to build up defences against India rather than fighting terrorism and its lack of concern for minorities,'' a senior European diplomat said.<br /><br />Mr Gilani's recent trip to the European Union (EU) in Brussels, following the brutal killing of 90 Ahmedis in Lahore by militants was a public relations disaster, with the EU bluntly refusing to fund Pakistan unless it improved its governance record.<br /><br />Yet even as Pakistani leaders cajole the West for more money and warn of an impending economic collapse, the army insists that the world must recognise Pakistan as a full blown nuclear power. </i>Riaz Haqhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00522781692886598586noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5848640164815342479.post-80552877212268803092010-06-06T07:32:20.673-07:002010-06-06T07:32:20.673-07:00A BBC report on Pak defense budget hike:
Pakistan...A BBC <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/world/south_asia/10247402.stm" rel="nofollow">report</a> on Pak defense budget hike:<br /><br />Pakistan has announced it is to increase defence spending by 17% in the coming year, with analysts saying much of it will be used to combat militants.<br /><br />In his budget speech to parliament, Finance Minister Abdul Hafeez Shaikh said security forces should know they had the support of MPs.<br /><br />Defence spending will rise to more than $5bn a year from next month.<br /><br />Pakistani forces have carried out major offensives in the north-west over the past year.<br /><br />However, there has also been a wave of deadly attacks by Islamic militants throughout the country.<br /><br />"I think security is our topmost issue," said Mr Shaikh.<br /><br />"We are facing a situation in which our armed forces, paramilitary forces and security forces are laying down their lives. They are bearing pain for the country and the people, I salute them. They should know from this house that we all stand by them."<br />Suicide attacks<br /><br />In the past three years more than 3,400 people have been killed across Pakistan in bomb blasts and suicide attacks blamed on Taliban militants.<br /><br />Last week more than 90 people were killed in co-ordinated attacks on two mosques of the minority Ahmadi Islamic sect in Lahore.<br /><br />Pakistan, a vital ally for the US, has been heavily burdened by the cost of fighting Taliban insurgents along its Afghan border.<br /><br />Mr Shaikh said government policies had reined in inflation - from 25% down to 13% - and brought economic stability.<br /><br />"We are seeing the beginning of recovery," he said.<br /><br />In 2008 Pakistan secured a $10bn loan package from the International Monetary Fund to keep its economy on track.<br /><br />Analysts say the IMF is now putting pressure on Pakistan's financial institutions to make further reforms.Riaz Haqhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00522781692886598586noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5848640164815342479.post-54993902462714852652010-04-24T10:43:52.394-07:002010-04-24T10:43:52.394-07:00Talking about healthcare in India, hunger haunts t...Talking about healthcare in India, hunger haunts the poor patients even in the hospitals. And sickness drives them deeper into debt and poverty. <br /><br />Here's a recent <a href="http://ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=49877" rel="nofollow">report</a> on it:<br /><br /><i>NEW DELHI, Jan 3, 2010 (IPS) - As a nurse, Amita Dhaka sees much suffering, but what she finds hard to handle is inadequate nutrition and even hunger among poor in-patients.<br /><br />At the busy, charitable hospital run by the Rural Medicare Society (RMS) at Mehrauli, on the outskirts of the national capital, where Dhaka is employed, there are provisions for poorer patients. But this is not the case with most state-run or private medical facilities, where patients are left to their own devices when it comes to procuring prescribed medicines or getting their meals.<br /><br />"The problem is that attendants also require meals, and we see that very often they end up being an additional burden on the pockets of patients admitted in hospital," said Dhaka.<br /><br />According to Dr. Aarti Vasisht, one of 28 doctors and surgeons working at the RMS hospital, providing patients with timely, balanced and nutritious meals is important because it has a direct bearing on recovery.<br /><br />The chest specialist added that many of her patients are being treated for tuberculosis and are on heavy medications. "These are people who need to be on special diets and must be provided timely, nutritious meals," she said.<br /><br />Vasisht has been able to arrange free meals for her patients at the RMS hospital from the charitable Santhigiri Ashram, which has a mission of providing free or subsidised food and medical care for the needy.<br /><br />"We hope to expand these services and reach other hospitals in the national capital, but this is not easy in a time of recession when the prices of food items have gone through the roof," said Swami Pranavsuddhan, director of the Santhigiri Ashram. "The good thing though is that this is a cause that people seem interested in supporting, and New Delhi is a city of wealthy people who believe that feeding the poor and needy can add positively to their karma."<br /><br />"These free meals go a long way for patients who may have to spend 300 rupees (6.4 US dollars) or more for each day of hospitalisation, which is an enormous burden for people living below the poverty line, earning less than two dollars a day,’’ Vasisht said.<br /><br />"In India’s healthcare delivery system it is hard enough to get affordable medicines to most patients, and so the question of ensuring that they eat well is glossed over although everybody is aware of the problem,’’ she said.<br /><br />The latest review of the National Rural Health Mission (NRHM), released last week, speaks of continuing difficulties in providing free drugs to patients and "the imperative of prescribing medicines from outside," when the government is committed to raising public spending on health from 0.9 percent of gross domestic product to two to three percent of GDP.<br /><br />In sharp contrast to the services at the RMS centre are the swish hospitals dotting the capital that cater to the health needs of the well-to-do and to a burgeoning medical tourism industry that attracts 450,000 foreign patients each year.<br /><br />Hospitals such as the ‘Indraprastha Apollo,’ which ranks among the world’s biggest private health facilities, do not allow attendants and provide patients with meals prepared under the careful supervision of dieticians.<br /><br />The NRHM, which runs from 2005 to 2012, was set up after the government recognised that curative services favour the rich and that for every dollar spent on the poorest 20 percent of the population, three dollars are spent on the richest quintile.<br /><br />The NRHM also acknowledges that over 40 percent of hospitalised Indians borrow heavily or sell assets to cover medical expenses and that over 25 percent of hospitalised Indians fall below the poverty line because of hospital expenses.</i>Riaz Haqhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00522781692886598586noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5848640164815342479.post-45971813098991830582010-04-24T10:25:17.143-07:002010-04-24T10:25:17.143-07:00Here are some excepts of Nehru University's Pr...Here are some excepts of Nehru University's Prof Jayanti Ghosh's video interview on Real News <a href="http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=5030&updaterx=2010-04-24+00%3A28%3A24" rel="nofollow">Network</a> in which she says there is "no Indian miracle":<br /><br />JAY: So in India you're saying there never was major reforms and it's getting worse.<br /><br />GHOSH: Absolutely. If you look at the pattern of Indian growth, it's really more like a Latin American story. We are now this big success story of globalization, but it's a peculiar success story, because it's really one which has been dependent on foreign—you know, we don't run trade surpluses. We don't even run current account surpluses, even though a lot of our workers go abroad to Saudi Arabia and the Gulf, to California, as IT workers. We still don't really run current account surpluses. So we've been getting capital inflow because we are discovered as this hot destination. You know, we are on Euromoney covers. We are seen as this place to go. Some of our top businessmen are the richest men in the world. They hit the Fortune top-ten index. All of that kind of thing. This capital inflow comes in, it makes our stock market rise, it allows for new urban services to develop, and it generates this feel-good segment of the Indian economy. Banks have been lending more to this upper group, the top 10 percent of the population, let's say. It's a small part of the population, but it's a lot of people, it's about 110 million people, which is a pretty large market for most places. So that has fuelled this growth, because otherwise you cannot explain how we've had 8 to 10 percent growth now for a decade. Real wages are falling, nutrition indicators are down there with sub-Saharan Africa, a whole range of basic human development is still abysmal, and per capita incomes in the countryside are not growing at all.<br /><br />JAY: So I guess part of that's part of the secret of what's happening in India is that the middle, upper-middle class, in proportion to the population of India, is relatively small, but it's still so big compared to most other countries—you were saying 100, 150 million people living in this, benefiting from the expansion. And it's a lot bigger. It's like—what is it? Ten, fifteen Canadas. So it's a very vibrant market. But you're saying most of the people in India aren't seeing the benefits.<br /><br />GHOSH: Well, in fact it's worse than that. It's not just that they're not seeing the benefits. It's not that they're excluded from this. They are part of this process. They are integrated into the process. And, in fact, this is a growth process that relies on keeping their incomes lower, in fact, in terms of extracting more surplus from them. Let me just give you a few examples. You know, everybody talks about the software industry and how competitive we are. And it's true. It's this shiny, modern sector, you know, a bit like California in the middle of sub-Saharan Africa. But when you look at it, it's not just that our software engineers achieve, it's that the entire supporting establishment is very cheap. The whole system which allows them to be more competitive is one where you are relying on very low-paid assistants, drivers, cooks, cleaners. You know, the whole support establishment is below subsistence wage, practically, and it's that which effectively subsidizes this very modern industry.Riaz Haqhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00522781692886598586noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5848640164815342479.post-57242748444194048272010-04-19T09:58:24.971-07:002010-04-19T09:58:24.971-07:00In a recent interview, food campaigner Jean Dreze ...In a recent <a href="http://www.hinduonnet.com/fline/stories/20100423270801000.htm" rel="nofollow">interview</a>, food campaigner Jean Dreze aid, "For Indians to eat like the Chinese, let alone the French or the Italians, there will have to be a lot more food around."<br /><br />Here are some excerpts from it:<br /><br />"Firstly, I would not agree that India is “self-sufficient” in food production. It looks self-sufficient only because food intake is abysmally low, not only in terms of quantity but also in terms of quality. For Indians to eat like the Chinese, let alone the French or the Italians, there will have to be a lot more food around. Having said this, low food production is not the main issue, and food production itself would easily go up if there were enough purchasing power among the masses. The main issue is people’s inability to secure essential things that are required for good nutrition. These include not only food but also other inputs such as clean water, health care, sanitation, basic education and child care. All these fields of public policy have been grossly neglected for a long time."<br /><br />"The NREGA can certainly help, and it does. In a recent survey of 1,000 NREGA workers conducted in 10 districts of North India, 69 per cent of the respondents felt that the NREGA had “helped them to avoid hunger” [see “The Battle for Employment Guarantee”, Frontline, January 2009]. But even if the NREGA functioned really well, which is not the case, it would have a limited impact on the nutrition situation, for many reasons. Some people are unable to participate in NREGA work because of illness, disability, old age, and so on. Those who do participate earn a meagre income at best, even if they work for 100 days in the year. And most importantly, good nutrition is not a matter of income alone. This applies especially to child nutrition, which is the foundation of good nutrition for all.<br /><br />Even among households that are relatively well-off in economic terms, child under-nutrition is not uncommon, for reasons that can range from low birthweight and poor breastfeeding practices to lack of health care or gender discrimination. This is why a range of complementary interventions are required. It would be pointless to expect a single intervention, whether it is the NREGA or the PDS or the ICDS, to ensure food security."Riaz Haqhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00522781692886598586noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5848640164815342479.post-277486435718149482010-03-11T09:19:50.742-08:002010-03-11T09:19:50.742-08:00Here's an opinion from Forbes India special ab...Here's an opinion from <a href="http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-affairs/50074-indias-next-10-years.html" rel="nofollow">Forbes India</a> special about India's next ten years:<br /><br /><i>was considerable hoopla when the Indian economy crossed the trillion dollar mark for the first time three years ago. Over the next 10 to 15 years, it is now almost inevitable that our economy will touch $3 trillion. Last week, I had an interesting chat with K.V. Kamath, ICICI Bank’s non-executive chairman, about the implications of such phenomenal growth. Perhaps with the exception of China, nowhere in the world has one seen such a large mass of people go through a period of unprecedented growth. Even though China’s march began in 1978, the real boom in that economy started in 2000 and lasted for more than 10 years. During this period, per capita incomes have trebled there.<br /><br />On the other hand, India began its charge in 1991. And by 2025, per capita incomes are likely to move up three fold from the current base of about $1,000. Yet Kamath raised a significant question: How much do we really know what happens to a society that goes through such rapid change? China could have offered some clues, but no one is sure whether this transformation has been credibly recorded there. Now, when India steps up for her moment in history, it’ll perhaps offer a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity for researchers and media to chronicle this massive surge.<br /><br />Set against the backdrop of last week’s Union Budget, that’s exactly what this special edition attempts to do. Associate Editor Dinesh Narayanan and Principal Correspondent Udit Misra lay out the big challenges facing the country over the next decade. Their essay picks up clues from the Budget speech and then focusses our attention on four hot-button issues that will keep our policy-makers awake at night.<br /><br />We then pick up the four big bets that this government has made — education, homeland security, climate change and roads — and look at how each minister in charge is using a new approach to drive his agenda.<br /><br />Finally, the concept of inclusive growth suggests that the benefits of development must touch all our states in ample measure. Yet in states like Bihar and Uttar Pradesh, the human development indices are almost as bad as that of African countries. So why can’t we learn to replicate the success in one state in another? We’ve picked out two important stories of transformation that offer critical lessons. Associate Editor Malini Goyal’s family quit Bihar more than a decade ago. Quietly but surely, under Chief Minister Nitish Kumar, Bihar has undergone a huge upheaval for the past four years. Malini returns to her home state to discover why good governance can make a difference even in a seemingly hopeless situation. Make sure you read her personal account on page 68.<br /><br />The agricultural crisis has tormented the minds of policymakers and farmers alike. Some weeks ago, we found the answers in unexpected quarters: The state of Gujarat. In the last few years, Gujarat’s agrarian sector has grown at three times the national average. Consulting Editor R.N. Bhaskar travels to the hotspot to bring you an amazing story of agricultural revival. It underscores my belief that we don’t need new solutions. All we need is political will and foresight.</i>Riaz Haqhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00522781692886598586noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5848640164815342479.post-23219320272623303952010-03-03T22:13:42.202-08:002010-03-03T22:13:42.202-08:00China's is reporting 7.5% increase in Chinese...China's <a href="http://news.xinhuanet.com/english2010/china/2010-03/04/c_13196769.htm" rel="nofollow"></a> is reporting 7.5% increase in Chinese defense budget:<br /><br /><i>China plans to increase its defense budget by 7.5 percent in 2010, only about half of last year's planned growth of 14.9 percent, a parliament spokesman said here on Thursday.<br /><br />The planned defense budget is 532.115 billion yuan (about 78 billion U.S. dollars), a rise of about 37 billion yuan from last year's defense expenditure, Li Zhaoxing, spokesman for the annual session of the National People's Congress (NPC), told a press conference.<br /><br />Defense spending would account for 6.4 percent of the country's total fiscal expenditure in 2010, the same with last year, he said.<br /><br />However, Li stressed that the figures would not be final until the budget plan is approved at the NPC annual session due to open in Beijing on Friday.<br /><br />It is the first time for China's defense budget growth rate to drop to less than 10 percent in recent years which saw a row of consecutive double-digit increases.<br /><br />This year's increased budget will be mainly be spent to support the reform of China's military and improve its capability to deal with varied threats and complete diversified tasks, Li said.<br /><br />Part of the money will also be used to raise the living standards of servicemen, he said.<br /><br />China has always taken the road of peaceful development and keep in line with the defensive national defense policy, Li said.<br /><br />Taking into account China's large population, its vast territory, and its long coastline, the country's defense budget is "comparatively low," according to the former Foreign Minister.<br /><br />"China's defense expenditure in recent years accounted for about 1.4 percent of its GDP," he said, adding that the ratio was four percent for the United States, and more than two percent for the United Kingdom, France and Russia.<br /><br />He said China has been continuously raising its military transparency by submitting defense budgets to the NPC annual sessions for approval, issuing white papers every two years on its national defense, and establishing a spokesperson system and websites for its Defense Ministry.</i>Riaz Haqhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00522781692886598586noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5848640164815342479.post-62215030488249012852010-02-26T17:10:59.617-08:002010-02-26T17:10:59.617-08:00India's 2010-2011 budget is up another 8.13 pe...India's 2010-2011 budget is up another 8.13 percent on top of the 34% increase in 2009-2010, according to <a href="http://www.india-server.com/news/union-budget-2010-defence-budget-raised-21917.html" rel="nofollow">Indiaserver.com</a>. <br /><br />India's defence expenditure has been raised to Rs.147,344 crore (Rs.1.47 trillion/$32 billion) for 2010-11, up 8.13 percent from the revised estimates of the previous fiscal, in the budget presented by Finance Minister Pranab Mukherjee in the Lok Sabha Friday.<br /> <br />"Secure borders and security of life and property fosters development. I propose to increase the allocation for defence to Rs.147,344 crore. This would include Rs.60,000 crore for capital expenditure," Mukherjee said in his budget speech.<br /> <br />"Needless to say, any additional requirement for the security of the nation will be provided for," he added.<br /> <br />Defence Minister A.K. Antony declined to comment on the allocations.<br /> <br />Though the expenditure has been hiked by Rs.11,080 crore, in real terms, however, the hike works out to only 3.98 percent as Rs.141,703 crore had been originally allocated for 2009-10 but this was later revised to Rs.136,264 crore.<br /> <br />The allocation for 2010-11 works out to 11 percent of India's Rs.11,08,749 crore budget for the fiscal, down one percent from the previous year<br /> <br />The capital expenditure of Rs.60,000 crore is higher by Rs.5,176 crore than the Rs.54,824 crore originally allocated for the previous fiscal but Rs.7,000 crore of this was returned as unspent. A similar amount was returned in 2008-09.<br /> <br />As in the past, the 1.2 million-strong Indian Army has been granted the lion's share, but at Rs.57,326 crore this is lower by Rs.1,322 from the Rs.58,648 crore originally allocated for 2009-10, Rs.740 crore of which was returned.<br /> <br />The Indian Navy has been allocated Rs.9,329 crore, Rs.1,007 crore more than the Rs.8,322 that was allocated for the previous fiscal which was later raised to Rs.9,312 crore. In real terms, the raise amounts to just Rs.17 crore.<br /> <br />In the case of the Indian Air Force, its allocation of Rs.15,210 crore is Rs.992 crore higher than the Rs.14,318 allocated for the previous fiscal that was later raised to Rs.14,681.<br /> <br />The ordnance factories are perhaps the biggest losers. Originally allocated Rs.832 crore for the previous fiscal, this was raised to Rs.2,187 crore and has now been pegged at Rs.246 crore for 2010-11, a reduction of Rs.1,941 crore or 88 percent.<br /> <br />The Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) has got a hike of Rs.881 crore to Rs.5,230 crore from its revised allocation of Rs.4,349 crore in the previous fiscal.Riaz Haqhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00522781692886598586noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5848640164815342479.post-61491558241694263592010-02-25T08:06:45.963-08:002010-02-25T08:06:45.963-08:00Here are excerpts from WSJ story on US arms deals ...Here are excerpts from <a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703510204575085771112111454.html?mod=WSJ_WSJ_US_News_5" rel="nofollow">WSJ</a> story on US arms deals with India and Pakistan:<br /><br />The U.S. has made billions of dollars in weapons deals with India, which is in the midst of a five-year, $50 billion push to modernize its military.<br /><br />At the same time, American military aid to Pakistan stands to nearly double next year, allowing Islamabad to acquire more U.S.-made helicopters, night-vision goggles and other military equipment. The aid has made it easier for Pakistan to ramp up its fight against militants on the Afghan border, as the U.S. tries to convince Islamabad that its biggest security threat is within the country, not in India.<br /><br />During a late January trip to Islamabad, Defense Secretary Robert Gates said the U.S. would for the first time give Pakistan a dozen surveillance drones, a longstanding Pakistani request.<br />------------<br />Washington's relationships with the two nations are very different. India, which is wealthier and larger than its neighbor, pays for weapons purchases with its own funds. Pakistan, by contrast, uses American grants to fund most of its arms purchases. A new U.S. counterinsurgency assistance fund for Pakistan is slated to increase from $700 million in fiscal year 2010 to $1.2 billion in fiscal year 2011.<br /><br />"We do straight commercial deals with India, while Pakistan effectively uses the money we give them to buy our equipment," said a U.S. official who works with the two countries. "But we think that's ultimately in our national interest because it makes the Pakistanis more capable of dealing with their homegrown terrorists."<br /><br />India is one of the largest buyers of foreign-made munitions, with a long shopping list which includes warships, fighter jets, tanks and other weapons. Its defense budget is $30 billion for the fiscal year ending March 31, a 70% increase from five years ago. The country is preparing its military to deal with multiple potential threats, including conflict with Pakistan. Tensions have recently flared between India and China over territorial claims along their border. China defeated India in a short war in 1962.<br /><br />"For 2010 and 2011, India could well be the most important market in the world for defense contractors looking to make foreign military sales," said Tom Captain, the vice chairman of Deloitte LLP's aerospace and defense practice.<br /><br />Russia has been India's main source of military hardware for decades, supplying about 70% of equipment now in use. Moscow is working to keep that position, with talks ongoing to sell India 29 MiG-29K carrier-borne jet fighters, according to an Indian Defense Ministry spokesman.<br /><br />The Obama administration is trying to persuade New Delhi to buy American jet fighters instead, a shift White House officials say would lead to closer military and political relations between India and the U.S. It would also be a bonanza for U.S. defense contractors, and has dispatched senior officials such as Mr. Gates to New Delhi to deliver the message that Washington hopes India will choose American defense firms for major purchases in the years ahead.<br /><br />Shortly after a late January visit by Mr. Gates—on the same tour that took him to Islamabad—In late January, the administration signed off on India's request to purchase 145 U.S.-made howitzers, a $647 million deal.Pentagon spokesman Geoff Morrell said Mr. Gates's visit didn't affect the substance or timing of the howitzer purchase.<br /><br />That came days after India formally expressed its intent to purchase 10 cargo transport aircraft from Boeing Co. in a deal analysts say could be worth more than $2 billion. Last year, India spent $2.1 billion on eight Boeing long-range Poseidon reconnaissance aircraft for the Indian navy.Riaz Haqhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00522781692886598586noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5848640164815342479.post-37336448451512140592010-02-14T08:20:01.641-08:002010-02-14T08:20:01.641-08:00anoop:"Regarding the comment where you say In...anoop:"Regarding the comment where you say India is starving its people to achieve military might. You are wrong on many aspects. You dont lower your defences against a threat to your existence just because many in your territory live unprivileged lives."<br /><br />You are just as prone to misinformation and propaganda as the rest of Indians, including legislators.<br /><br />India's real defense expenditures are much more than the $30 billion figure you see in the budget, because this figure excludes India's considerable nuclear arsenal, cost of maintaining Kashmir occupation, and the cost of military pensions, etc.<br /><br />The other issue that is not discussed is whether the expensive cold-war era weapons really add to India's security. As an example, India is spending over a billion dollars on an old Russian aircraft carrier Admiral Gorshkov, while Russians themselves are buying cheaper and more effective Mistral warships from France.<br /><br />You should read a detailed discussion of India's defense spending by retired Col. Pavan Nair of the Indian Army that I published on this blog.<br /><br />If there was a serious discussion and debate on 34% hike and big ticket items in Indian parliament and the media, I think the outcome would have been different and better for the Indian people.Riaz Haqhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00522781692886598586noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5848640164815342479.post-55558879078833074152010-02-14T04:58:07.238-08:002010-02-14T04:58:07.238-08:00Regarding the comment where you say India is starv...Regarding the comment where you say India is starving its people to achieve military might. You are wrong on many aspects. You dont lower your defences against a threat to your existence just because many in your territory live unprivileged lives. Besides, Pakistan still harps on Kashmir even after suffering such great loss(es). Is it not true that Kashmir was responsible for end of Jinnah's idea of Pakistan?? But, has Pakistan left the issue to pursue its development?? No..<br /><br />Why in that case should we lower our military preparedness? You may see a hike of 34% but only 2.5% of GDP is allocated to defence unlike in Pakistan where the percentage is more than 3% of GDP. So, if you want to make a case there is a better case to be made for Pakistan than India which is growing as the fastest Democracy in the world. Pakistan has been living beyond its means for years now. It wants to have Nuclear weapons jewelry on its back but is not shamed to beg for assistance from Major Powers. When the Major powers decide to stop giving money to splurge on its expensive tastes Pakistan's economy stagnates like it did in the 1990's. Economically Pakistan stagnated during those 10 years Pakistan didnt get aid. The economy is weaker still now. So, Pakistan should cut its defence expenditure instead of hiking it. India can afford it because being a bigger country it has bigger responsibilities and has a very bright future when compared to ailing Pakistan. <br /><br />US has agreed to provide 7.5 Billion,an unprecedented amount,to Pakistan. And, Pakistan still insists that it needs to increase its defence budget instead of diverting the money to aid its ailing economy. Atleast in the case of India its not begging around the world to sponsor its defence! We are aid givers now. That was our aim when we got independence 60 years ago to develop ourselves to an extent to stop receiving aid and become aid givers. Has there been any goal for Pakistan since its creation??<br /><br />India is stated to be the next big thing and has to have certain kind of Defence that middle level power countries like Pakistan cannot even dream of. So in this scenario your argument doesn't make any sense.anoophttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03953390714660751518noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5848640164815342479.post-90199704122335451632010-02-09T11:59:40.660-08:002010-02-09T11:59:40.660-08:00Here's a link about poverty in India - which w...Here's a link about poverty in India - which was the headlines from Time of India:<br />http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/No-financial-crisis-impact-Indias-poor-grew-by-34-mn/articleshow/5553859.cms<br /><br />I dont know if defense budgets can be sacrificed when India and Pakistan have a fundamental problem of hate based on how they think each side is 'correct' in their viewpoint.<br /><br />However the above link is a shameful reminder for both countries of the levels of poverty which we tolerate among our people. But I doubt if anything will shame us into solving our real problems - we still have the get over our superficial problems of hate based on religion, class and caste.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5848640164815342479.post-72535700942469319802010-02-08T01:33:10.254-08:002010-02-08T01:33:10.254-08:00"Every war, including the civil war in East P..."Every war, including the civil war in East Pakistan, creates refugees, as has been observed recently in Swat and South Waziristan. <br /><br />So, does that justify India forced to recv 10 million refugees from East Pakistan and DO NOTHING TO STOP IT.<br /><br />"<br />The civil war in East Pakistan was engineered by Indians and RAW agents through their sponsorship of Mukti Bahini, "<br /><br />Then India and RAW must have sponsored Yahah Khan and Bhutto to reject the election result where AL won and Mujibur won to become the PM. But hey west Pakistanis can not tolerate a bengali ruling over them. Bangladesh was formed on Mar 25 1971 itself (long before India got involved) when Mujibur fed up with West Pakistan's attitude declared that East pak is a separate nation. It was then Yahaya Khan decided to have operation searchlight which killed 3 million bengalis.<br /><br />Before Blaming India and RAW accept what created the discontentment and eventually the genocide.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5848640164815342479.post-57202151758157465722010-02-07T18:06:23.991-08:002010-02-07T18:06:23.991-08:00anoop: "One piece of advice: Stop your India ...anoop: "One piece of advice: Stop your India obsession and concentrate on establishing democracy in Pakistan"<br /><br />Your reading of my blog and your comments are highly selective, ignoring my frequent and strong criticisms of Pakistan. <br /><br />I think Indian democracy is a cruel hoax perpetrated on the largest population of poor, hungry and illiterate people in the world. The biggest beneficiaries of Indian democracy are a small percent of population in living in major urban centers. The vast majority of Indians are being exploited to create wealth for the few, as obvious from the horrible social indicators for India. <br /><br />Just look at the so called Operation Green Hunt against Maoists described as follows by the <a href="http://www.thehindu.com/2010/02/06/stories/2010020660591300.htm" rel="nofollow">Hindu<</a>:<br /><br />"Away from the gaze of the media and the judiciary, the adivasis of Bastar are paying a heavy price … for just being there. "<br /><br />Last year, British writer <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7KfEqikeUQ" rel="nofollow">William Dalrymple</a> described India's insurgencies as "no less serious" than the Taliban insurgency in Pakistan.Riaz Haqhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00522781692886598586noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5848640164815342479.post-15578127321675658352010-02-07T17:49:51.560-08:002010-02-07T17:49:51.560-08:00DC: "why wouldn't india invade if 10 mill...DC: "why wouldn't india invade if 10 million East Pakistanis flood to their country. In fact entire East Pakistan would have flooded if the war didn't happen."<br /><br />Every war, including the civil war in East Pakistan, creates refugees, as has been observed recently in Swat and South Waziristan. <br /><br />The civil war in East Pakistan was engineered by Indians and RAW agents through their sponsorship of Mukti Bahini, with the purpose of creating a refugee problem, and then exploiting it to the max with media propaganda and finally direct invasion.Riaz Haqhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00522781692886598586noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5848640164815342479.post-89971518596031132262010-02-07T17:41:41.874-08:002010-02-07T17:41:41.874-08:00anoop: "I bet the Bengalis whose Mothers and ...anoop: "I bet the Bengalis whose Mothers and Daughters were raped by Pakistan army Jawans would disagree with you."<br /><br />And the survivors and the families of the victims of Indian sponsored, trained and equipped Mukti Bahini terrorists would strongly disagree with you!<br /><br />The distortions such as the identity of the <a href="http://www.telegraphindia.com/1060319/asp/look/story_5969733.asp" rel="nofollow">Jessore massacre</a> of non-Bengalis (investigated by Sarmila Bose), and ignoring and then rewarding the killings by thugs like Kader "Tiger" Siddiqui have characterized the highly slanted accounts of the civil war in East Pakistan that claimed victims of all ethnicities, religions and opinions. <br /><br />Dr. Stranglove, a Bengali <a href="http://www.docstrangelove.com/2007/12/20/sarmila-boses-research-exposed/" rel="nofollow">blogger</a> challenged Sarmila Bose as follows: <br /><br /><i>"To try to bolster her argument, she claims that the size of the Pakistani army in Bangladesh was only 34,000 men. Then she asserts: "For an army of 34,000 to rape on this scale in eight or nine months (while fighting insurgency, guerrilla war and an invasion by India), each would-be perpetrator would have had to commit rape at an incredible rate."</i><br /><br />I find Bose's arguments, based on her more accurate numbers of Pak military personnel, far more persuasive. The total number of POWs taken by India was about 90,000. No more than half these were military personnel. I know it because one of my relatives was a civilian POW, part of the large civilian bureaucracy in East Pakistan.<br /><br />I have heard tales of horror from innocent civilian Bengalis and Biharis who fled East Pakistan because of the civil war involving Pakistani military and indiscriminate attacks by Mukti Bahini murderers and terrorists trained by the Indian RAW and military, all of whom now pose as liberators. Some of them, such as Kader Siddiqui, have been involved in rebellions and crimes against Bengalis since 1971. <br /><br />I think you, unlike Bose, have bought into a highly exaggerated narrative about Bangladesh without questioning any of the so-called "nationalists" claims.<br /><br />The story of a former colleague of mine from Bangladesh says a lot about the atrocities committed in East Pakistan by all sides. His father was picked up by Pakistan Army and was never seen again, presumably killed by Pak military. His brother then joined Mukti Bahini, fought Pakistan Army, and then he was himself killed by fellow Mukti fighters in front of his brother (my colleagues) and his mother who begged for him to be spared.Riaz Haqhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00522781692886598586noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5848640164815342479.post-91366050928244148332010-02-07T14:31:34.811-08:002010-02-07T14:31:34.811-08:00"The Indian invasion is what actually broke u..."The Indian invasion is what actually broke up Pakistan. "<br /><br />This part is true, but the question is, why wouldn't india invade if 10 million East Pakistanis flood to their country. In fact entire East Pakistan would have flooded if the war didn't happen.<br /><br />India had full right to intervene once it has to feed those 10 million.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com