tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5848640164815342479.post6313628421372268177..comments2024-03-27T15:36:44.737-07:00Comments on Haq's Musings: Is Pakistan America's Biggest Problem?Riaz Haqhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00522781692886598586noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5848640164815342479.post-52721038278464052642012-06-21T21:41:05.163-07:002012-06-21T21:41:05.163-07:00I think those who advocate using aid as leverage s...I think those who advocate using aid as leverage should remember what US Ambassador Anne Patterson wrote back on Sept 23, 2009 in a cable from Islamabad later leaked by Wikileaks. She said, "The Pakistani establishment, as we saw in 1998 with nuclear test, does not view assistance-even sizable assistance to their entities-as trade-off for national security".Riaz Haqhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00522781692886598586noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5848640164815342479.post-18493947370603364082011-04-26T19:55:49.522-07:002011-04-26T19:55:49.522-07:00Here's an Op Ed by a retired Indian diplomat K...Here's an Op Ed by a retired Indian diplomat KH Bhadrakumar published in <a href="http://www.thehindu.com/opinion/lead/article1770654.ece?homepage=true" rel="nofollow">The Hindu</a>:<br /><br /><i>The fact of the matter is that the U.S. has been holding direct talks with the Taliban. It has been able to do this largely because of the extensive intelligence network it has created in Pakistan — which became possible because Islamabad allowed it to happen. That, ironically, enables Washington to dispense with the good offices of the Pakistani military and the ISI, and opt for direct interaction with the insurgent groups. The U.S. intelligence network within Pakistan has penetrated the range of insurgent groups — the Afghan Taliban, the “Pakistan Taliban,” and non-Taliban (Afghan and Pakistani) militant groups. Evidently, if the drone attacks are becoming more “result-oriented,” it is due to real-time intelligence inputs. During the six weeks of gruelling interrogation of U.S. intelligence operative Raymond Davis, the Pakistani military caught on to a host of home truths. By now, the Pakistani military would have a fair idea of the extent of the American intelligence network and its potential to play merry havoc by splintering insurgent groups, pitting one group against another, manipulating factionalism within groups, monitoring the terror network and, conceivably, even turning some of the insurgent groups into instruments of U.S. regional policies. (Tehran insists that the U.S. is indulging in covert operations in Pakistan and Iran.)<br /><br />Suffice it to say the Pakistani military leadership wishes to draw a redline for the U.S.' covert operations so that Washington will be compelled to deal with militant Afghan groups through the single window of the ISI — within the parameters set by what old-timers call the “[Ronald] Reagan rules” during the Afghan jihad of the 1980s. There is hardly any leeway for Pakistan to compromise on this demand, which aims at revising the ground rules of the U.S.-Pakistan strategic partnership in the conduct of the Afghan war (based hitherto on unspoken, unwritten, ever-deniable and flexible templates of collaboration).<br />-----------<br />Of course, Pakistan is justified in wondering what is there for it in this scenario. This wasn't how the war was supposed to end. Obviously, Washington's priorities will change once the intensity of the fighting declines. For one thing, the U.S. aid flow will decline. Once the U.S. strengthens its direct line to the insurgents, its dependence on the Pakistani military can only decline. But Pakistan's objective of gaining “strategic depth” in Afghanistan remains elusive. Equally, Pakistan will be left grappling with an assortment of militant groups along its long, disputed border with Afghanistan that have been highly radicalised by the U.S.-led war. These include some groups which have been alienated one way or the other by Pakistan's role as the U.S.' “key non-NATO ally.”<br /><br />Pakistan faces an existential crisis in its Pashtun tribal tract that has borne the brunt of the U.S.-led war. As last Saturday's London Times report shows, there will be all sorts of attempts to muddy the waters. It suits the U.S. strategy to give the Afghan endgame the exaggerated overtones of an India-Pakistan turf war. The Indian establishment acted wisely to open dialogue with Pakistan in Mohali.</i>Riaz Haqhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00522781692886598586noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5848640164815342479.post-89984092897169043962009-05-01T12:46:00.000-07:002009-05-01T12:46:00.000-07:00@jadev who said "I think its a point of no return ...@jadev who said "I think its a point of no return for Pak..when most of the CI specialists predicts within 6months to 5 years..Pak is going down..down town.. US should concentrate on reviving Afghanistan rather than wasting resources on resuscitating a clinically dead Pak."<br /><br />and then Jadev finally woke up from his dream, baby if that happens god forbid, India is right there to feel the terrible effects, you guys could not handle kargil, think about that fantasy scenario.Pakistan is not build on toothpicks to predict all that dumb hatefull predication originating from your congested filthy slum in Mumbai or whereever rat hole you belong, go enjoy your indian blogs and your pretty gorgeous FERTILE women, please fix your people too with your wise comments on ur indian blogs, you antipakistani hate monger.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5848640164815342479.post-21901863027355878392009-04-11T09:29:00.000-07:002009-04-11T09:29:00.000-07:00I dun know why chaos in Pakistan is blamed on US. ...I dun know why chaos in Pakistan is blamed on US. If anybody care to remember the spate of terror bombings and starting of Pak Taliban began with callous Lal masjid storming and killing of 300 young pastun girls..by SSG.(arm twisted by Chinese)<BR/><BR/>That is in 2007..war on terror started in 2001. So do the math. The fact is that until Lal Masjid ..Pak Army was fully supporting Afghan Taliban by all means and arresting off-the-shelf Al-Qaeda leaders when pressure is too high or some important aid is around the corner.<BR/>The corollary is the <B>blowback</B> of supporting international islamic terrorism was inevitable..some events just seems catalyzed the whole blowback effect..<BR/>I think its a point of no return for Pak..when most of the CI specialists predicts within 6months to 5 years..Pak is going down..down town.. US should concentrate on reviving Afghanistan rather than wasting resources on resuscitating a clinically dead Pak<BR/>The drone attack causing resentment in tribal areas is also bogus..recent surveys tells that locals hate Taliban and their barbarism..55% approval rating for US drone attacks and 70% approval if it was done by Pak Army(which is unwilling than unable)..Jadevnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5848640164815342479.post-18781108015079836662009-04-10T07:35:00.000-07:002009-04-10T07:35:00.000-07:00Anonymous-who said "Taliban and America will push ...Anonymous-who said "Taliban and America will push Pakistan to stone age"-sorry dear friend-I think pakistan leaders and its self poking ISI are real trouble.Did you ever ask why Pakistan in the first place became training ground for terrorists?? If not you are doing more damage to Pakistan than any terorist.Unless we understand the real trouble-we will not come out of this.And drone attacks are compeltely supported as there is no other way the world can trust the army or ISI complex!Make no mistake-if there is one country the world will not hesitate to invade-that will be pakistan because of nuclear weapons.Pakistan leaders and its nuclear weapon scientists have not been responsible citizens of the world.The rules are same for any country.Irrespective of your nationality and religion or god-IF any nation does not play by the rules of world-it will pay-no questions asked.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5848640164815342479.post-2186202189388365142009-04-09T11:26:00.000-07:002009-04-09T11:26:00.000-07:00I agree a country for such a big country 1.5 billi...I agree a country for such a big country 1.5 billion usd is a peanuts. As rashid say most would be wiped off by the moderate corrupt politican and buraucrats. So the people will look upon the taliban for the quick justice. So american will loose this war also. But pakistan will be pushed into medeival age by the barbaric taliban and the bombing by the flying manless drones of americaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5848640164815342479.post-60517544319098706272009-04-09T10:14:00.000-07:002009-04-09T10:14:00.000-07:00Rashid,I did see some signs of "backbone" in Qures...Rashid,<BR/><BR/>I did see some signs of "backbone" in Qureshi and Kayani during the last visit Holbrook/Mullen visit to Islamabad. In fact the ISI Chief Gen Pasha refused a meeting with Mullen and Holbrook. <BR/><BR/>But I do agree with Prof Lieven's that "If ... Washington thinks that it can play Pakistani governments like a fish on an aid hook in order to extract much greater help in the Afghan war, then it will undermine and finally destroy those governments, as it did that of Pervez Musharraf. Even more importantly, if it does succeed in forcing the Pakistani army to do things that its soldiers detest, it may destroy the army. This would be a catastrophe for the US that would dwarf even defeat in Afghanistan.Riaz Haqhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00522781692886598586noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5848640164815342479.post-24698063043843829052009-04-09T09:27:00.000-07:002009-04-09T09:27:00.000-07:00We are seeing a reverse "bring 'em on" attitude in...We are seeing a reverse "bring 'em on" attitude in Pakistan.<BR/>Most people have not forgotten the $700 million held up by the Congress over the jets.<BR/>No political party is going to go out and embrace the US for $8 - which is only a promise. Even this $8 will be withdrawn on the slightest lobbying from a particular group here in the US.<BR/>By definition the only people with a backbone are extremists. At this time they are riding on the popular sentiment. Moderates and US stooges have very little traction in the populace. The old game plan is to create factions. We have so many ways to create factions. Sectarianism - ethnicity - class system - take your pick. Any or All of these will be used to solve "America's Biggest Problem" - for just a 'fistful of dollars'.Rashidnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5848640164815342479.post-76805954470856586062009-04-09T08:16:00.000-07:002009-04-09T08:16:00.000-07:00In a BBC report on the the total ineffectiveness o...In a BBC report on the the total ineffectiveness of reward money in the capture of most wanted men such as bin Laden, Mullah Omar, Baitullah Mehsud, etc. , there are several interesting aspects such as the pushtunwali code protecting guests and fellow pushtuns, the probabilities of which side is going eventually win, and the importance of religious beliefs trumping money. Here are a few excerpts: <BR/><BR/><I>Terry Pattar, a counter-terrorism expert at Jane's Strategic Advisory Services, thinks the key difference is that in Iraq it was clear that eventually the US would win whereas that is not the case in Pakistan and Afghanistan.<BR/><BR/>"I think these kinds of rewards perhaps draw out the people who are more likely to give information where it's clear they'll be giving it to the side that is going to eventually win," he says. <BR/><BR/>"There's less fear of reprisals. They've got more chance of claiming the money and safely using it." <BR/><BR/>Mike Scheuer believes this explains why after all these years Osama Bin Laden is still a free man.<BR/><BR/>"It's very unlikely that any Muslim is going to turn him in to the Americans for money," says the former CIA officer, making reference to al-Qaeda's attacks on the US in 2001.<BR/><BR/>"He's been in Afghanistan since 9/11. It's the third poorest place on the planet. We have $200m of reward money outstanding, including $50m for Osama and no-one has come forward to take a cent.<BR/><BR/>"I think we need in the West to grow up a little bit, everything doesn't pivot on money."<BR/><BR/>"In the Islamic world, at least when it comes to Osama Bin Laden, it pivots off of religion," Mike Scheuer says.</I>Riaz Haqhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00522781692886598586noreply@blogger.com